Episode 52 - The Lost Boy: Jamison Newlander Talks Blood, Bites & Behind-the-Scenes

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Sa. [00:00:31] Speaker B: If you dig the twisted, admire the outlandish, and are enamored by the unusual, you're in the right place. True crime, the supernatural, the unexplained. Now you're speaking our language. If you agree, join us as we dive into the darker side. You know, because it's more fun over here. Welcome to Total Conundrum. [00:00:58] Speaker A: Warning. [00:00:59] Speaker B: Some listeners may find the following content disturbing. Listener discretion is advised. [00:01:09] Speaker C: All right, Conundrum crew, we've got something special for you today. But not just special. Legendary. Now, we can't give away everything just yet, but let's just say our next guest, he's got fangs in his pass, scripts in his pocket, and a resume that reads like a horror fan's fever dream. Born on April 2, 1970, right in sunny California, he's the youngest of three in a loud, witty Jewish Italian family, which honestly sounds like the perfect training ground for a future cult icon status. He's faced down childhood challenges, including wearing leg braces due to necrosis, but still hit the baseball fields like a tiny little action hero in orthopedic gear. Let's just say the determination started early. Trained at Beverly Hills High, earned a BFA from nyu, went out to carve a career that blends stage, screen and spuriously stupid, oh my gosh. And seriously spooky street cred. Without giving too much away, here's what we can tell you. He slated on screen as a certain vampire hunting icon. He's an award winning playwright, an indie filmmaker, and the host of a killer YouTube series called Lost Locations where he revisits some very familiar fang filled filming spots. And let's talk co stars for a second. He shared the scene with River Phoenix, Jason Bateman, Corey Feldman, Corey Haim, Kiefer Sutherland, Jason Patrick and Jamie Gertz and many others. No big deal. Just a regular Tuesday, right? He even went full creature feature in the 1988 remake of the Blob and held his own next to Kurt Frickin Russell, Patrick Wilson, Matthew Fox, and Richard Jenkins in Bone Tomahawk. He's also a husband and a proud dad and probably the only person who could get away with grounding his kids by threatening to call David from the boardwalk. But who is this mystery guest? Well, you'll just have to stick around. So buckle up, Conundrum crew. We've got a legend in the house today, but we're just warming up because the real fun, the wild stories and behind the scene tea are coming in hot. [00:03:20] Speaker A: That was awesome. [00:03:21] Speaker B: Today we have the incredible Jameson Newlander. [00:03:24] Speaker C: Hey, Jameson, thank you so much for joining us today. [00:03:27] Speaker A: Thank you, Sharon. Good to be here. [00:03:29] Speaker C: It was such an honor and we're so happy that you took your time to do this for us. [00:03:34] Speaker A: Definitely. Total Conundrum. There's no conundrum in coming on. I was just totally down. [00:03:40] Speaker B: Here at Total Conundrum, we pride ourselves on being a serious investigative podcast. We don't shy away from the tough stuff, hard hitting questions, the ones other shows are afraid to ask. [00:03:53] Speaker C: Which brings us to our next segment. [00:03:55] Speaker B: In your role in Bone Tomahawk, your character is tasked with sending a telegraph, but you hit a bit of a spelling issue. [00:04:04] Speaker C: So we have to ask, after all these years, did you figure out how to spell troglodyte for the Telegram? [00:04:13] Speaker A: I mean, you know, it's like troglodytes in the script, you know, so I, I knew how to spell it, but the, the. It was a funny little bit, you know, like the, I mean, I was, I was happy to get that button. I felt like that was the button of the scene, you know. [00:04:28] Speaker C: Oh, it totally was. [00:04:30] Speaker B: It's weird that that ain't a quote on the Internet. You know that, right? [00:04:34] Speaker A: Maybe it's coming because it's a, it's a, you know, that, that film's building now. You know, I go to conventions. More and more people have seen it now. They. [00:04:41] Speaker B: Okay, okay. [00:04:42] Speaker C: Yeah, we watched it just recently and it was, you know, Jeremy can handle the gore and stuff. I watched it with, you know, through my hands. [00:04:51] Speaker A: Gory stuff. I mean, for, for the viewers, it's. It took me by surprise, you know, I mean, I even like, knew the, knew the story, but it was like, wow, the way they handled it, it was, it was, it was rough. I mean, in a great way. [00:05:06] Speaker B: It was kind of like watching the Walking Dead. [00:05:10] Speaker C: Oh, yes. [00:05:10] Speaker B: You know, there's a scene in there that gets really gory and that was kind of like same style. [00:05:18] Speaker C: Oh, are you talking about what's his face with his Lucille B. I cannot watch that scene. [00:05:25] Speaker A: I cannot up. [00:05:27] Speaker B: Right. [00:05:27] Speaker C: Nope, nope. [00:05:28] Speaker B: I had nightmares after that. [00:05:30] Speaker A: Yeah, I get, I'm sensitive to that. [00:05:32] Speaker B: Stuff, you know, like, I can't handle that stuff like that, you know? [00:05:36] Speaker A: Right. But it's invigorating. Like, maybe that's why people love it so much. Like you're like, what? [00:05:43] Speaker C: Shock and yeah, some people can. I can handle watching some of that stuff, but usually it's between my fingers. [00:05:49] Speaker A: So, I mean, you know, filming it wasn't scary at all. You know, I mean, I wasn't in that Scene, but it was never really is, I don't think, scary. [00:05:59] Speaker C: And the makeup in that, I mean, they really looked kind of like they were undead. [00:06:04] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, yeah. They were scary creatures. Those were scary. Yes, scary creatures. Creatures. [00:06:10] Speaker C: And the noises that they made were even just unnerving. [00:06:13] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:06:13] Speaker C: So, Jeremy, what's the next question? [00:06:15] Speaker B: We got Jameson, which of the followings do you fear the most? Vampires, werewolves, or Hollywood editions? [00:06:27] Speaker A: Never having encounters real vampires or, or, or werewolves. Yeah, I think the Hollywood. Hollywood edition, that could be scary stuff, you know, I mean, as we, as we've all seen, you know, so. Yeah, I don't know that I really fear it. I mean, I, I think that like, you know, the sort of issues of Hollywood, I'm kind of mostly trying to try to avoid them and stay in denial as much as I can. [00:06:54] Speaker B: So when you guys do the auditions now, do you just send in the same tape or is it always different? [00:07:00] Speaker A: What do you mean? You mean for the, the. [00:07:03] Speaker B: Because you guys audition through tape now, right? Or. [00:07:06] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, I just done the same tape. But no, I know we have to read for the role, you know, like use. [00:07:12] Speaker B: Oh, okay. Certain. [00:07:13] Speaker A: You know, it. I. To tell you the truth, the, the, the audition process, the, the putting it on tape, I, I really like that. As opposed to going in the room, I always got nervous in the room. And some people really thrive in the room, know, in audition room. But the. It's more like movie making, you know, if you're sending in auditions on, on. On video. [00:07:33] Speaker C: Yeah, well, and you can perfect it a little bit more too, if you're not happy with it. Delete. Start over. [00:07:39] Speaker A: Yeah, totally can't do that live. You can make it. Make it like, you know, make it what you want. You're in control a little bit, you know. [00:07:46] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, I think I would like that better too. Let me, let me perfect it as best I can and then send it in. [00:07:52] Speaker A: Yeah, because, you know, for me, and this is part of the reason why, you know, like, I have some nice credits and everything, but I wasn't one of those guys who was booking constantly, you know, like someone like. I talked to my colleague, my buddy, Chance Corbett, you know, who is Laddie in the movie. And after Lost Boys, he was auditioning like four or five times a day and booking stuff constantly. And I just never really was like that. I booked stuff, but I was. When I got in the room, I got a little. I got a little nervous, you know, I wasn't able to really like command the room the way a Lot of people were. So it. This works for me a little better. [00:08:24] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:08:25] Speaker C: Yeah. We met Chance at Crypticon as well, and I, if I meet him in person again, I'm giving him all sorts of shit because he literally took my phone and he was like, follow me with your podcast on Instagram. I'll follow you back. He still hasn't followed us. [00:08:41] Speaker A: Forced follow. And he never followed you back? [00:08:44] Speaker C: No. Okay, so he's going to get lots of shit. I mean, he's. He recognized us throughout the weekend and stuff. Like when we were leaving that. When we left early on Saturday night, he. Which we'll get into in a little bit here. But as we were walking out of the elevator, he, you know, said hi to us and stuff and he was like, great questions at the panel today. And so. But I, you know, I don't expect him to follow. Not everybody does. I mean, you did your, you know, and we've been communicating off and on, you know, since September to get this going and stuff and it's been wonderful. But, yeah, if I ever meet him in person again, he's going to get an earful from me. [00:09:24] Speaker A: Yeah, it's probably just an oversight. I'm going to give him a hard time about it and we'll see you do that. [00:09:29] Speaker C: All right, so the next serious hard hitting question that we have is, please take your time on this one. Who, in your honest assessment is more terrifying? David, the ominous vampire gang leader from the Lost Boys or Tax Season? [00:09:50] Speaker A: I think that that's a great. That's a. It's a close one. [00:09:55] Speaker B: It is a close one. But, yeah, obviously it's got to be Tax season. Come on. [00:10:01] Speaker A: Scary, man. That could be scary. Yeah, but David, I mean, David's scary. Like, you know, when he's like, you're dead. Neat. You know, after that, that was scary stuff, you know. [00:10:12] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:10:13] Speaker C: He's a very intimidating person. [00:10:16] Speaker A: What? [00:10:17] Speaker C: Kiefer is a very intimidating person. Yeah, he can really give off that aura. [00:10:22] Speaker A: And he was, I mean, in person too. I didn't see him that much. I mean, I only saw him a couple times on Sex. We were in different scenes mostly, but very intense guy. Very, very intense. He's got a lot of stuff going on in that head. [00:10:33] Speaker B: I really like getting the, getting the scene done. [00:10:36] Speaker C: Right. I liked that. Movie or not movie. It was a TV series that he did with autism. His son having autism. [00:10:44] Speaker B: Wasn't that 24 or something? [00:10:47] Speaker A: No, I didn't watch 24, but is it 24 that. Does the son have autism in that? Is It. [00:10:51] Speaker C: That one, I can't remember. If it's 24, I can't remember. But he really showed a softer side in that. [00:10:58] Speaker A: Really. I should really see that. So. I love Kiefer. I think he's such a good actor, and he. He made so much of that Lost Boys role. Like, you know, it was a cool role and everything, but he brought so much. So much depth to it and so much complexity to it, even, you know, so subtly complex. It was really cool. I'd love to see him do something more serious. [00:11:17] Speaker C: Yeah, it's. I. I'll have to look. I'll. If I can find it, I'll send it to you in a message. [00:11:21] Speaker B: I think everything he's in, he's kind of just awesome. [00:11:25] Speaker C: Yeah. Yeah. But it's kind of nice to see that more softer, compassionate. But yet he fights for his son. [00:11:34] Speaker A: And so, yeah, I saw Kiefer for the first time. I mean, really only one time in adult life I've really seen him, and that's in 2019 in. In Manchester. We did a convention, and I saw him, and he was just the nicest guy. I only talked to him for a few minutes, but just the nicest guy and really happy to connect, reconnect with me and stuff. It's like, you know, I didn't know that Kiefer really thought of me, you know, that much. I mean, you know, I'm in the same movie with him, but he's got a lot of other things going on. But he, you know, it was really nice. It's really great to connect. Really nice guy. [00:12:06] Speaker C: Well, and they were quite a bit older. What, five or six years older than you guys. [00:12:10] Speaker A: Yeah. Like, there was. There was a definite difference between the older crowd, you know, the vampires, the cool. The cool vampire crowd, and the Frog brothers. You know, I mean, Corey Haim merged the two. You know, he went between the two. He got to party with the vampires a little bit and, you know, got close with them and. But it really wasn't till adult life that I kind of got to hang with those guys that much. You know, I. I wasn't partying like they were. You know, I was, like, kind of, like, learning my lines and freaking out about making sure I got it right, you know, so, you know, there was that difference. [00:12:41] Speaker B: Shifting gears slightly, let's talk leadership. If Alan Frog were to run for President of the United States, what would the campaign slogan be? And does he have a running mate or just a sharpened wood stake and a copy of Monster Squad? [00:12:58] Speaker A: I love it. [00:13:00] Speaker B: I told You. They're stupid questions. [00:13:02] Speaker A: I think that the slogan would be, kill your brother. You'll feel better. [00:13:08] Speaker B: I kind of figured that would be. [00:13:12] Speaker A: And you know what? I think it would be really interesting for the Frog brothers to run together as a team, as running mates. So I think, you know, Alan was. You know, I. I like to sort of, like, reinvent it all and. And. And feel like Alan was the lead frog, even though it was. It was obviously Feldman. Obviously Edgar was the lead frog, you know, But I like to think that I was like the silent. You know, the silent leader in the. [00:13:34] Speaker B: Back, you know, and so you're like the bounc. [00:13:37] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, exactly. And so it's like, you know, I kind of feel like that would be our campaign together would be like, you know, he'd be out there, you know, out there, you know, taking the questions, making some mistakes, whatever. And I just come in and just be like, matter of fact and lay down the law. [00:13:57] Speaker C: I love it. I love it. But I think in your campaign videos, you gotta bring on the Frog Sisters. [00:14:06] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, the Frog Sisters. [00:14:09] Speaker C: So you saw that video. It's classic. [00:14:11] Speaker A: I love doing that, and I love looking back at that sometimes. You know, the funny thing about that. So first of all, you know, it was just right there. Like, they've been talking about doing the Frog Sisters for a long time, you know, with, like, Lost Girls. I don't know if you, you know, had heard about that, but even back since, like, 87, like, after the movie came out, I remember meeting with Joel and. Well, that's not true. Then. Then he wanted to bring us back. But then at some point it became, you know, the Lost Girls and Frog Sisters. And. And so I said to Feldman, I was like, let's do an audition as the Frog Sisters. And I was sort of like, you know, we'll do. And he was like, cool. Come on, let's do it. Like, let's do it now, you know, and so we just did it. You know, we. We got these wigs and. [00:14:51] Speaker C: Oh, it is so good. For those of you. For our listeners, if you go out, I think it's on Corey's YouTube channel. [00:14:59] Speaker A: That's right. Yeah. [00:14:59] Speaker C: They have the Frog Sisters audition. And it is epic. You have to watch it. And Corey, he actually makes one hell of a girl. [00:15:09] Speaker A: He was brilliant. I thought he was brilliant. Because, you know, it's like, none of it's scripted. We're like, let's try it. And I tell you, that Felman, he is so creat on the spot. Like, that, you know, and he was so funny, I thought. And then he. So great. [00:15:21] Speaker C: You guys did a really, really good job on it. I was laughing my ass off. [00:15:26] Speaker B: That's good. [00:15:27] Speaker C: And actually funny. You found that video, didn't you? [00:15:30] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah. [00:15:31] Speaker C: He sent it over to me and I was laughing hysterically. It was good. [00:15:36] Speaker A: It was like, let's have some fun with it, you know, because it's like, oh, you know, people were always asking me, like, you know, if they make it the Frog Sisters, you know, would you support. It's like, sure, you know, whatever you want to do, you know, it's the franchise, you know, doesn't belong to me. I'm thrilled to be a part of it. But yeah, if you want to do the Foxes, just go for it, you know, but we're here. We'll make some fun of it, you know. [00:15:54] Speaker C: Yeah, definitely. Well, I know at one point you had talked about in different podcasts that I listened to that you were trying to get like, kind of like a Cobra Kai type version of the Frog Brothers. Is that still something that you guys are working on? [00:16:09] Speaker A: Yeah, you know, it's like we ran into some obstacles. I mean, I, I see they're flipping into walking. There comes when I'm not trying. So yeah, we ran into some obstacles because I thought it was going to be like people are going to be like, oh yeah, that's great idea. And a lot of people did, but the decision makers, it just takes a lot of effort, a lot of like, you know, meetings and trying to get someone interested, someone to champion it. And then we like had someone who was into it. And then there's a big shake up in Warner Brothers, you know, when Discovery took over. And so now it's like, it's been kind of like finding another executive who's, who's willing to champion it. And it seems like a no brainer. It seems like a no brainer to the fans. You know, everyone I talked to, I was like, oh my God, that would be amazing. That would be awesome. You know, and so, you know, we're still trying to do it. I have other projects that are kind of taken more front, you know, front and center stage. I would love for that thing to go. Jason Patrick is also has been interested in helping make it happen, you know. [00:17:10] Speaker C: Because, well, and if anything, I know Cobra kai started on YouTube, if anything started on YouTube and then because Cobra Kai is now on Netflix and stuff. So, yeah, started on YouTube and that's. [00:17:22] Speaker A: Not a bad idea to just do it, you know. Yeah, that's a good idea because it's like that's what Hollywood needs, you know. You know, or it's not just Hollywood, but like, you know, the public like gotta just kind of put it out there, create it, build it and they will come, you know. [00:17:36] Speaker C: Right. IPhones have come a long way too. I mean, you can make hell of a good movie on iPhones now, so. [00:17:42] Speaker A: Yeah, totally. You know, the lost locations, you know that, the YouTube show, it's all on the iPhone, you know. [00:17:47] Speaker C: Yeah, that's a really fun. And we'll kind of get into that a little bit too. But we've been having a lot of fun watching that and seeing all of the. [00:17:56] Speaker B: Yeah, we keep waiting for new episodes though. [00:17:59] Speaker A: Yeah, we're moving slowly because it's like we have no real budget and. And it hasn't caught on the way. I was hoping it would catch on at first, you know, I mean, I do think it will catch on, but it's taking time. It's also taking, you know how social media is. Maybe you guys are good at it, but I'm not yet good at it. I'm. I'm figuring it out, you know, in terms of like getting viewers, you know, reaching that outside audience and stuff. I'm, you know, my YouTube channel is, does not have very many subscribers and. [00:18:29] Speaker C: Yeah, we've been struggling with that too. [00:18:31] Speaker A: Right. [00:18:32] Speaker B: We're learning too. [00:18:33] Speaker C: Yeah, we were definitely learning. But then we've got our 16 year old nephew. 17 year old nephew. [00:18:39] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:18:39] Speaker C: Starts a YouTube channel and within two months he's blowing up. I'm like, you know, is it because. [00:18:47] Speaker B: He'S a kid or he does videos of like snowmobiles and stuff and snowball crashes and people like that? [00:18:55] Speaker C: Yeah. When he. They've got videos of them snowmobiling in like Michigan and Colorado and whatever. But I'm like looking at his videos and I'm like, this was just posted last week and it's got, you know, 50,000 views. [00:19:08] Speaker A: I'm like, where's my, where's my 50,000 views? Yeah. [00:19:11] Speaker C: Right. [00:19:13] Speaker A: Like I'll get maybe like, you know, if I do a video with like Jason Patrick or whatever, I'll get like maybe 10,000 or something like that. But that's, that's a. I don't usually get that kind of. And I don't know how to get 50,000 or a million. I mean, like, you know. [00:19:26] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't know. [00:19:29] Speaker C: Well, I did. I think you, I think you saw. I created a, like a video announcing that you were going to be on the show. And I also put on there with your lost locations and I put the link to your YouTube so nice. So that hopefully our listeners will keep sharing that video. I have it pinned on our Instagram page. So go out there and share that so we can boost up some views for Jameson on that. [00:19:54] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, everybody. Everybody get it around. Because it's a cool. You know, it's a cool show. And, like, I feel like I'm doing some cool stuff that people want to see. [00:20:00] Speaker C: Well. And I love that you guys found your dad from Lost Boys. [00:20:04] Speaker A: Cool. Yeah, that was cool. [00:20:06] Speaker C: And he was. You were teaching him how to sign autographs and. [00:20:10] Speaker A: Yeah, that was really neat. You know, he. Back then, he. First of all, I mean, I didn't realize that they were. I thought they were like hippies from, like, the hippie compounds nearby. Because in Santa Cruz at the time, they were. They were real hippie compounds. Like they. Right, Compounds are hippie. What do you call them? I don't know. Groups, I think. [00:20:26] Speaker C: Compounds. [00:20:27] Speaker A: Yeah, Compound. Hippie compounds. Yeah, they, you know, they were dressed like the hippies, you know, like. Like, you know, from the 60s. It wasn't that long after the 60s and 70s. It was only the mid-80s at that point, you know, but he was just sort of a guy. I think he was just a local guy and could dress up like that. But they were so nice. They were so very kind of parental with me, know, a little bit. [00:20:48] Speaker C: Well, and you even have. You went to the sax players show. He's still performing. [00:20:54] Speaker A: Amazing show still. Yeah. [00:20:56] Speaker C: And it's totally epic that he had such a minor part in that movie. But he is so remembered, too. [00:21:04] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah, that. That's so trippy. I mean, hats off to Schumacher and I mean, of course to Tim also for. But it's like just to. To like, take this concert scene and turn it into this epic thing where he's, you know, this greased up sax guy. And it was so good too. You know, the song was so good. It just got you. [00:21:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:21:21] Speaker A: You know, really rocking. [00:21:23] Speaker C: Right? Yeah. Speaking of song, I mentioned that to you in chat. Jeremy reached out to G, and we're. We're trying to see if we can get permission to be able to play a little bit of Cry Little Sister on this episode. [00:21:37] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't think that's gonna happen. I reached out to one place and, yeah, it's pretty expensive. And then, you know, you. You get the license for, like, a certain duration of time. So basically the longest that they'll, like, lease it is. For, like, three years or whatever. [00:21:58] Speaker C: Is that through a third party or is that through the. [00:22:01] Speaker B: Yeah, that was that one company that I went through. [00:22:04] Speaker C: Yeah. I was actually shocked that he replied on Instagram to Jeremy. He said he was going to check with his manager or management team or something. [00:22:12] Speaker A: Yeah. To see if it's possible. [00:22:14] Speaker C: Yeah. And ever since then, I've had the song in my head, like, constantly. Like, then we. [00:22:20] Speaker B: Then we asked him if he wanted to come on the podcast, and I think that he wouldn't. Radio silence. [00:22:26] Speaker A: I would think he would want to. [00:22:28] Speaker B: Well, it's only. [00:22:29] Speaker A: He's a really fun guy. Yeah. [00:22:31] Speaker C: Yeah, he. Well, he was on your Lost Locations as well, which was a lot of fun. [00:22:36] Speaker A: Yeah. Did you like that in that scene, you're like. I. I really, like, challenged him a little bit on what his song was about. [00:22:43] Speaker C: Yes, yes. [00:22:45] Speaker A: He got a little defensive. [00:22:46] Speaker B: Was he there at Crypticon 2024? [00:22:49] Speaker A: I don't think he was at that one. Neil was there. Yeah. [00:22:51] Speaker B: Viva's there. [00:22:52] Speaker A: I don't think G was there. [00:22:53] Speaker B: Okay. [00:22:53] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't think he was there. [00:22:54] Speaker B: I couldn't remember if I. If I seen him there or if I seen him in one of your videos, so I was kind of views. But I. I swear I seen that guy at Crypticon. I was like, I didn't know who he was, so it's possible. [00:23:08] Speaker A: I feel like I would remember, but these cons kind of run into each other a bit. [00:23:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:23:14] Speaker C: And we've been watching so much content and listening to so much. It's all kind of melding together, too. We wanted to make sure we had all the ins and outs. [00:23:23] Speaker A: You guys really did the research. I really. I really respect that. [00:23:27] Speaker C: Oh, of course. We love doing that. That's part of, you know, part of podcasting is making sure. Especially when you're doing true crime and paranormal. Paranormal. You can only do, you know, it's, you know, what he said, she said. It's, you know, what's true, what's not true. True crime. You really want to make sure you have all your facts, so you really got to have those research tools sharpened up. And so we love doing that. [00:23:50] Speaker A: Yeah, that's cool. [00:23:52] Speaker C: I was going to say something. What's that? [00:23:55] Speaker A: Noticing the Frog Brothers shirt. Oh, yeah. [00:24:00] Speaker B: She got one too. [00:24:02] Speaker C: Yeah, I had it on earlier, but I was like. I decided to change because I was cold. But we actually ordered the one from your shop too, but it didn't come yet. [00:24:13] Speaker A: Oh, really? [00:24:14] Speaker C: The sleeveless one? The green army colored? [00:24:19] Speaker A: Yeah. Cool. Nice. [00:24:20] Speaker B: Yeah, I Was getting a word of that one, but yeah. [00:24:22] Speaker C: Yeah, it didn't come yet. [00:24:24] Speaker A: It didn't come yet. Oh, bummer. [00:24:25] Speaker C: Okay, no, so we'll have to make sure we save that one for the next time you're at a con, so you can sign that one for Jeremy. All right, so on to the next topic, which also. Or which often reveals more about a person than any resume ever could. In the event of a Karoki night, hypothetically speaking, of course, what song would Alan Frog perform to rally the crowd? [00:24:51] Speaker A: Wow. Alan Frog doing karaoke. Let me think about this. You stumped me on this. The first one I was thinking of is, like, hit me with your best shot. Something like that. [00:25:01] Speaker C: You know, that's my go to. [00:25:03] Speaker A: Is it? And it's like, you know, for Alan Frog to be doing it, you know, But I feel like there's an even better one. [00:25:10] Speaker C: Like, I think it is actually pretty fitting for Alan Frog. [00:25:13] Speaker A: Right? [00:25:13] Speaker C: Hit me with your best shot. Yeah, Fire away. [00:25:18] Speaker A: Because he's bald, you know, Alan. Alan. [00:25:20] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:25:21] Speaker A: He's like. Doesn't care about the unafraid. Although that's not true. We did get afraid in the bath. [00:25:27] Speaker C: The bath. As you should have. [00:25:31] Speaker A: Yeah. Is that so your go to is. Is Hit me with your best shot. That's your. [00:25:34] Speaker C: That is one of my. One of my favorite ones. That and Total Eclipse. [00:25:39] Speaker A: Nice. So both others, it's sort of similar, but they're not the same artist. It's like. [00:25:45] Speaker B: No, I think total. [00:25:47] Speaker C: Bonnie Tyler. [00:25:48] Speaker A: Bonnie Tyler, right. Yeah. [00:25:49] Speaker C: Yeah, totally. That song. [00:25:54] Speaker B: So follow question. Yeah, what song would Jameson Newlander personally choose to bring the house down at Crypticon? 2024. [00:26:04] Speaker A: Okay. So Crypticon being in. So my go tos on the karaoke, you know, it changes. But sweet child of mine, for a while was my go to. And another one bites the dust, you know, those are the. You know, just, like, good, because I can also get that, like, you know, like. [00:26:22] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:26:25] Speaker A: You know, but these days. These days I'm doing more cheesy stuff. Like, I want it that way. I've been singing that in karaoke. Backstreet Boys and also Free Fallen. [00:26:41] Speaker B: That's a good one. That night at Crypticon, didn't you sing Friends in low places? [00:26:48] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. Friends in low Places. Yes. [00:26:50] Speaker B: I love it. [00:26:51] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:26:51] Speaker A: And I also sang Jesse's girl. [00:26:54] Speaker C: Oh, fun. [00:26:56] Speaker A: Yeah. So those are good ones. Friends in little places. I love people. I thought everybody knew that song, but not everybody knows that song. But. But I love to sing it. It's just so. [00:27:04] Speaker C: Oh, I do too yeah, it's, it's just such a. It's an icon song, you know. But yeah, I would think more people would know it too. But yeah, we, like we had said before Crypticon last year in September, that's where we actually met Jameson. And after Crypticon was over, people were posting videos and pictures and stuff like that. And we saw the video of you singing Friends in Low Places on Friday night and the party upstairs, which we ended up only making it maybe an hour up there because it was so hot. [00:27:39] Speaker A: Yeah, it was. [00:27:40] Speaker C: And there were so many people. And so we went back to the room and then we realized after the fact how much we missed out on and. But anyway, I'm going to kind of, you know, give our little meet cute story with Jameson, whether he remembers or not. But the first day before anything was really started or anything, we were just kind of wandering around and we went to the elevator to try to get back up to our room. And I was pressing the elevator button and it wouldn't light up. And this kid that was standing next to me was like, if you hit it, it's going to come. I said, if the light's not on, it's not coming. And so I was like just being funny and I kept pressing the button. And here Jameson walks up and unfortunately, I didn't recognize you. Jeremy did. And so anyway, you came up and you're like, oh, I figured this out. You gotta hit it in the top right corner and you hit it up there and it lit right up. And then we get in the elevator, go to our room and Jeremy's like, that was Jameson Newlander. I'm like, no way. I'm horrible at recognizing people. I mean, you know, Patrick Swayze could have probably walked up to me at one point and I would probably not even, you know, it's like, I don't put two and two together. It's like people are people. I don't, you know, I'm not search. I'm from Minnesota. I don't look for celebrities, you know. But anyway, we go up to the room, he tells me, and then we went down and did autographs shortly after. And that's when we went to your booth, you know, introduced ourselves and stuff. And we kept running into you in the elevator all weekend. A lot of people crazy. Well, most people were walking around pretty freely. The only people that were kind of walking around with an entourage were the Nightmare on Elm Street Crew. Oh yeah, they had their little entourage kind of, you know, protecting them or whatever. [00:29:33] Speaker A: That's what's fun about. That's one of the things that's fun about those conventions is that like, we all mixing, you know, we're staying at the hotel and, you know, see people at the tables or on the panels and stuff like that. But we also just, you know, you run into each other in the hotel or, you know, and like, we kind of got to know each other a little. Right. We saw each other a few times in the elevator. At the elevator and stuff. And so, you know, that, that's the fun part. It's sort of like, you know, when, when Brooke McCarter and Corey Haim were alive and we did cons with them. That's kind of where it all started. They were just, they were, they were just so the party was them, you know, they. They knew how to party. They knew how to just. They were just having a blast. And everybody, you know, so, so we. That's kind of where that I think comes from, you know, is that these cons are just like a good opportunity to party with everybody, you know. [00:30:24] Speaker C: Right. And that's what. It was a lot of fun seeing that, that everybody. It just goes to show you because as much as people, you know, may have fame or, you know, celebrities or whatever, you're just regular people too, you know. And Saturday we ended up. Well, Friday night we pooped out because of the heat. So we missed out. Didn't even know there was karaoke upstairs or anything. Then Saturday, we were kind of pooped. It was a hot day and the air at that hotel was just. There was so many people. I just don't think the air could keep up with it. And Saturday night, around 2:00 in the morning, we were just like, let's just go sleep in our own bed. So we packed everything up, we go down in the elevator, we come out, and there's Chance. And I cannot remember the guy that played Balthazar and. Really tall guy, bald. [00:31:20] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm picturing that guy. [00:31:22] Speaker C: Yeah. I can't think of his name off the top of my head. But anyway, they were standing at the. At the elevator when we came out. Chance remembered me from the panel and complimented me on the questions that I asked. And then we walking through the lobby, you're sitting there partying with a bunch of people, and Jeremy and I are looking at each other. We're like, are we making the right decision? We already left our keys in the room. So we're like, next year, next year we're going to make sure we stay. So we got our tickets. [00:31:53] Speaker B: We probably won't you know, we'll get tired. [00:31:57] Speaker A: And also, like, you know, that was, like, by chance that we were, you know, literally by chance, because chance was with us, but also just, you know, that we were out there partying. You know, you never know. We could have, you know, next year if we're there. I mean, I think we won't be at that one this year, but, you know, you could run into us again, and we could. We could be the ones that are crashing on. On Saturday night. [00:32:15] Speaker C: Right, right. [00:32:16] Speaker A: You know, party too much on Friday, and then Saturday, you're just like, I don't have anything left, you know. [00:32:23] Speaker C: Well, on Friday, too, it was all free drinks, but unfortunately, they were all sweet drinks, too. And the sweet drinks give you that hangover. [00:32:32] Speaker A: Right, right, right. And make you tired and. [00:32:34] Speaker C: Yes. But. Yeah. So Crypticon 2024. We had a blast. Met, you know, met Jameson, and so can't wait until you guys do another con that's close to us. But now we're going to kind of go into our next little topic. So I have to ask, because this is, like, totally the crossover episode that I never knew we needed, but you and Corey Feldman did some ghost hunting together for his YouTube channel. Can you tell us a little bit about that experience? Was it spooky, chaotic, hilarious? All of the above? [00:33:13] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:33:13] Speaker C: Most importantly, did the ghosts recognize you as the Frog brothers? [00:33:19] Speaker A: So, okay, so, like, you know, it was. It's this funny thing where, you know, we showed up at. Where were we? It was like. That was near Gettysburg, I think we did a con. Gettysburg. Yeah. So and so. Oh, yeah, that's right. Because it was the house of the. The woman who died. You know, what was her name? Jenny. [00:33:39] Speaker C: Jenny. [00:33:40] Speaker B: Jenny Wayne. [00:33:41] Speaker C: There you go. [00:33:42] Speaker A: Anyway, yeah, so, yeah, and so, you know, they were like, you know, I. There, and I. And they were like, hey, come ghost hunting with us. It would be really cool, you know, you know, see if we can get Feldman. You know, you guys would be awesome to do, you know, ghost hunting with the frog brothers. And so I was like, okay, cool. Yeah, that sounds great. Let's do that. You know, that sounds awesome. And so I looped Feldman in, and he was down for it. I was, you know, sort of surprised how much he was down for it, but he, you know, I think he's kind of wanting to do that sort of stuff anyway. And so. And then I. And then I. I just kept going. [00:34:13] Speaker C: You got possessed by the demon? [00:34:16] Speaker A: That was, like, my justification of it. I was like, well, she was cooking bread, and I sort of Sensitive to, you know, gluten and everything. So that's probably what it was. But I don't know. I just think. I mean, you know, it could have been, you know, it could have been that. I mean, you know, the ghost coming back and haunting my stomach, you know, but it's also like, you know, we were flying that day and, you know, it was like systems all kind of out of whack and everything. And then. And it just like, you know, if we. I mean, I don't know when the last time is. You've been in that situation where, like, there's nothing you can do. You have to head back to the bathroom. Like, there's no. Yeah, you know, and it was terrible because I was like, here I am. I looped Velvet in. I wanted to make this cool thing, you know, and then I'm just, you know, not present at all for it. But they were good sports about it, you know, But I feel like, you know, and then we weren't even going to make it an episode. It was. It was really. Well, Will Fredericks, who, you know, hangs out with us a bit, and he's producing the Lost Locations show. He was recording it, and Feldon was recording it. And then it was kind of after the fact that it was like, you know, we could make a little episode out of this. And I was like, make an episode? But I wasn't involved in it all. He was like, no, we'll make that into a. It'll be a joke. You know, it'll be like a fun thing. [00:35:27] Speaker B: It was kind of a running joke, wasn't it? Because, I mean, it kind of went on for, like, five episodes. [00:35:33] Speaker A: Yeah. And so, you know, so there's that. That piece of it. But then also, you know, I was skeptical. I'm skeptical. You know, you guys do ghost hunting, right? I mean, so I'm skeptical because I think, like, you know, you can make anything sound. You'll be like, oh, that's really. You know, we do this and we make contact with the ghost. So. But then they were talking to us. Somehow they were talking to us, and it was like, there. I was being skeptical, but it was really. Something was really happening. They were somehow really responding. It was really. And so I'm not as skeptical, but I. I still am because there's possibility for, like, denial. Like, did that really happen or did they set it up? Did they. Do people. Do who do ghost hunting have ways of, like, setting it up to make it seem like they're ghosts, you know, but they didn't Seem like the kind of people that would do that, you know? [00:36:16] Speaker C: So most paranormal investigators, other than some unnamed ones that like to really blow things up for tv, most average paranormal investigators, they try to debunk everything. They really do, right? That makes, you know, if you're going with a good crew, then they're going to try to debunk everything. And Jeremy is a very big skeptic. I'm more of a believer. I grew up in a very old farmhouse and had a lot of stuff happen when I was a kid that I just, you know, I still, to this day, I'm like, was it just my overactive kid imagination or. But there's so many people that had experiences in that same house, too, and I've had things happen otherwise. And we actually rented out a Airbnb in Illinois that is supposedly haunted. And Jeremy stayed there himself all through the day. He was in the basement. Yeah, he took a nap. But what was really funny is we. We brought. We have some ghost hunting equipment. And so we brought it all with us. And Jeremy and I, it took him a while to get me to go down into the basement. And I went down to the basement. We shut all the lights, did some recording. We did the REM pod, which is the box that has the antenna, and if they touch it, it makes a loud beep noise. And I was recording that Q and A session in the basement. And we came upstairs and we set the REM pod up on the grand piano, and I was showing the video to somebody that was there with us. And we had a ring camera in the living room that was recording. We had a ring camera in every room. So if anything happened when we weren't there. [00:38:03] Speaker A: Smart. [00:38:04] Speaker C: Well, anyway, the REM or I'm playing this video and I'm asking, you know, whoever's in the basement, if you can touch it to let us know you're here. And as I'm asking these questions on the video, the REM pod in the living room is reacting to my questions on the video, and it's answering the same way, going off and on. I'm like, okay, thank you. Can you. Can you walk away? Can you stop touching it? And it would turn off. I'm like, okay, can you touch it again? And it would turn back on. The crazy thing is, on the ring camera, when I watched the video of that, I had asked, I'm like, can you tell in the video? I said, can you tell me your name? And you don't hear anything on my recording on my phone. But on the recording of the ring video. You hear this, like, almost like a demonic. Like something's trying to answer to what it is. I haven't been able to debunk it yet. Whether or not it's true, I don't know, but, you know, I couldn't sleep at that place. It was like, once everybody went to bed, I was, like, staring eyes, going back and forth, like, what are we doing? We're sleeping in this house that's supposed to be haunted. What are we doing? Right. [00:39:16] Speaker B: Like a baby. [00:39:17] Speaker A: He did, yeah. [00:39:19] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:39:19] Speaker A: But did you. Did you see anything that you. You know, felt like we're. Was. You know, as a skeptic. [00:39:26] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, the. The one thing that I did find curious as we were recording in this. It was kind of an. Like an upstairs living room area. [00:39:36] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:39:37] Speaker B: And I'm just recording her doing something. I can't remember what it was, but all of a sudden, this ball of light started floating, and it kind of went up towards the ceiling, and then it came back down towards Tracy's head. [00:39:53] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:39:54] Speaker B: And then it kind of shot back towards me, and I was like, what in the heck is that? [00:39:59] Speaker C: It was crazy. [00:40:01] Speaker A: So that's pretty scary. [00:40:02] Speaker B: Yeah, that was. [00:40:03] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:40:03] Speaker B: I'm not gonna say it's a ghost, though, but, yeah, it was hard to tell. [00:40:08] Speaker A: I mean, for us skeptics, it is. You know, I mean. And also, I mean, have you seen, like, in life, there's just a lot of. There's a bunch of things where it's, like, could be coincidence, but it just doesn't seem like it. It seems like there's something going on, and I don't know, you know, ghosts necessarily, or precognition or whatever. I mean, like, you know, as an example, I was telling someone this the other day that. So I worked with George Clooney when I was a kid in a play, and, you know, since then, of course, like, you know, he's gotten huge, and. And I'm not really in touch with him, but I. Maybe about 10 years ago, I had a dream that I saw him, and two days later, I saw him, and I said, hi. [00:40:44] Speaker C: Like, you know, isn't that crazy? [00:40:46] Speaker A: Yeah. And it's like. Stuff like that is, like, it. It could be coincidence, but it sure doesn't seem like it. You know, it seems like there's something going on that. That this reality that we see that I think I'm convinced of, this reality that we see, I. I do forget that because I'm also a pragmatist, you know, but, like, I. That this reality that we see is not the full story. Somehow there's something else going on. There's something. We're connected in ways that we don't fully grasp, you know, that we can't really explain. We're, you know, and we're connected to people who, you know, the undead or. Or the dead or people who've passed, you know, in ways that I just. [00:41:21] Speaker B: Maybe it's like the Matrix. [00:41:23] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:41:23] Speaker B: Or different timelines stuck in the Matrix. [00:41:26] Speaker A: Yeah. Well, like, I think it was like the collective consciousness, you know, that. That. That somehow we're all part of this consciousness that. That we can kind of tap into, but we, you know, we take our own individual perspective seriously. We feel like that's us, and so we might lose touch with being in touch with the collective, something like that. That's the best thing I can kind of come up with. [00:41:49] Speaker C: Yeah. It's all very interesting. And that's part of the reason when doing the podcast and stuff, I like to help spread the word, to make victims known, their stories known, and, you know, the researching and learning about all this stuff and making you more aware in your own life. But I am really into the true crime, the paranormal, the unexplained, all of that stuff, too. So that's why when we decided to do this, we wanted to do a little bit of both. Because, honestly, you can only handle so much true crime, too, before it drives you mad. And so you have a little bit of fun with the paranormal. And I've learned so much in the timeframe that we've been doing this. And Jeremy's actually got me to go out on a couple investigations now, or. The first time we went out, we went to just a graveyard. It was dark. It was. You know, he said that he saw somebody standing off on the, you know, corner of the graveyard or by the road or something, and I'm like, I'm going back to the truck. So we've kind of gotten into it a little bit more. We've got a little equipment here and there. We've interviewed some local people in Minnesota that are part of the TAPS team, which is like Jason Haas. He kind of overruns that whole taps. Well, each city or each state has their own TAPS team. That's underneath Jason Haas. Ghost Hunters. Isn't that the name for their show? Yeah. [00:43:17] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:43:18] Speaker C: So they have a TV show as well. I can't think of the other guy's name. I'm horrible at names. So that. [00:43:24] Speaker A: See, that's where I am. I'm not good at names. But I'm good at faces. Like we were talking about that earlier about like you can't connect, but like me, I connect faces pretty well. But I'll ask people like nine times for their, for their name. [00:43:36] Speaker C: Yeah, well, I, I'm the same. Jeremy, he's so funny. We'll be watching a movie and he's like, oh, that's so and so. That's so and so. And I'm like looking at it and I'm like, oh, you're right. [00:43:47] Speaker A: I do that too. I do that too. Like in Breaking Bad, you know, you watch Breaking Bad. [00:43:52] Speaker C: I never got into Breaking Bad. [00:43:53] Speaker A: But the guy, one of the guys, one of the guys who's actually my 16 year old's favorite character in it. I was like, I know. I remember that guy. He was the guy in Beverly Hills Cop. He was the, he was the thug in Beverly Hills Cop, you know, And I, and I was right. I looked, it was right. So I have a talent for that. [00:44:11] Speaker C: Jeremy does too. I mean, every show we watch or movie, he's always like, oh, they're in da da da da da. And I'm like, right. [00:44:17] Speaker A: It's cool, right? I mean, to be able to see that. [00:44:19] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't know how I do it, but. [00:44:20] Speaker C: Oh, I don't. You've got an amazing memory like that. Well, so if you're ever interested, I have an in to the David Ohman the Omen house. [00:44:31] Speaker A: Oh, really? The Omen House? [00:44:33] Speaker C: Yeah. David Ohman. I met him on doing a collab on another podcast and he said that if any time anybody wants to come out and that house is supposedly pretty active and we, when we were doing a recording with him on this collab, he had stuff going on in the background while we were doing a live recording. So. But there's some pretty cool places in Minnesota too. And we could probably get the Minnesota Taps or Dave Schrader is also from Minnesota, so we could try to reach out to him too. Those guys are some pretty big ones in the paranormal. And if you and Corey want to come out and try take two. And hopefully you don't have the stomach demons this time. We would love to join you guys. [00:45:12] Speaker A: You know what? We would. Corey and I mean, part of how that one came about is that Corey and I were talking about doing something, you know, because. Because we're the Frog Brothers and we wouldn't do it as the Frog Brothers. But you know, it's deal that it would be cool that if we were doing, you know, that we went out and I Think we even pitched a show like that and they didn't go for it, but. But maybe this is the way to do it, you know, team up with, you know, actually go out on some more. That's what we were trying to do. You know, it's just. I had to go to the bathroom constantly. [00:45:43] Speaker B: Yeah, I was gonna ask you that if you guys are gonna do more of those, because. [00:45:46] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, I definitely want to be down with it. Getting Feldman to do it. He wants to do it, but it's always a little trickier because his schedule is a little trickier. And he also requires money. You know, I mean, I. I can kind of do things a little for, like, you know, no money or very little money sometimes, you know, But Feldman, really. Because he's so kind of in demand, he. So that makes it a little more challenging. Cause I. I don't know that there's, like, tons of money up front in these kinds of things, you know? [00:46:13] Speaker B: Is that a SAG thing that some require money, some don't? [00:46:18] Speaker A: You know, I'm not exactly clear at the moment on where SAG's jurisdiction is in all this. I think when we're playing ourselves, it's. There's a gray area, but I should really look into that. I don't want to piss off sag, you know? [00:46:32] Speaker C: Okay. [00:46:33] Speaker B: Yeah, I was. I was kind of curious on that. [00:46:36] Speaker A: Because it's like, I do podcasts a bunch, you know, and I. I don't. You know, I don't know that that's governed by sag. I. I hope it's not. I don't think. [00:46:44] Speaker B: Yeah. You know, I've. I was kind of wondering if maybe that's why that skit, you know, you didn't really want to do. Because the SAG or something. [00:46:51] Speaker A: Because it's not that you're talking about the. The walking thing. Yeah, no, I just, you know, it. [00:46:57] Speaker B: Seems like, you know, some. Some actors will tell you that, you know, they can't do something because, you know, SAG requires a payment or something or, you know, so I just. Always been curious on that one. [00:47:09] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, I think I should get clear on what SAG says. But, no, for me, it's more like I was getting it ready this morning, and I was like, I just couldn't key into it. I couldn't key into walking. And I was like, it's. It's weird because, like, I do a good walk in, but. But it's not. Some people really can just come right out of the gate and nail walk in, you Know, Christopher walk in, and I. For me, it, like, takes a little bit to, like, gear up and stuff, so I got a little bit. I just got a little nervous. And I was also looking for this wig, because if I'm going to do. I just feel like if I could get a good walk in wig. Like a white. [00:47:40] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:47:40] Speaker A: So I was playing. I have some wigs around here, like, from. From my kids, you know, like school projects or whatever. And I was trying to make it into the walking wig, and it just wasn't working. And I was like, ah, maybe it's. Maybe it's not meant to be. [00:47:52] Speaker B: You know, that's what I was telling her, too, as I was like, you know, that that script's more for just audio. You know, it ain't really if. If we're doing a video, it'd be better if he had, like, a wig in and. [00:48:04] Speaker A: Yeah, totally. I mean, I'm even down for, like, you know, following this up with, like, maybe I'll find a wig and we can do that another time and you can sort of, like, add it to it or whatever. You know, the blank space. [00:48:16] Speaker B: Check with SAG first before you do it. [00:48:19] Speaker A: Give me the chance. [00:48:20] Speaker B: We don't want to get you in trouble or anything. [00:48:23] Speaker C: For our listeners, Jeremy had wrote up a little bit having Jameson play Christopher Walken, and we got that off of Jameson. Has or had. You don't do the podcast anymore, right? [00:48:39] Speaker A: We don't do that one now. [00:48:40] Speaker C: Yeah. Okay. So he had a podcast. It was Jameson Newlander and some other guy, right? [00:48:46] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, that's right. [00:48:47] Speaker C: And that was a bit that they did in one of their shows, and it was really funny. So Jamie took a little. A little bit last minute, and we kind of threw it at Jameson, and we decided to just, you know, table it for now. [00:49:00] Speaker A: We'll. [00:49:01] Speaker C: We'll see if we can revisit it later. [00:49:02] Speaker A: Yeah, let's see if we can. I do want to do it. I do love that stuff. [00:49:06] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:49:06] Speaker B: Yeah. I've been practicing walking a little bit, and I think I've gotten pretty good at the part that I've learned. Oh, yeah, let's hear it. [00:49:16] Speaker A: Yeah, let's hear it. Yeah, let's hear it. Wow. [00:49:19] Speaker B: Huh? [00:49:20] Speaker A: Huh? [00:49:22] Speaker B: That's it. [00:49:24] Speaker C: No, you had another part that you did, too. [00:49:26] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm not doing that one. That. That is not even good. Not even a moment. [00:49:31] Speaker C: I thought it was. [00:49:32] Speaker B: The wallet's the closest thing I have to a walking. [00:49:35] Speaker A: See, like, I can like, even, like, if I say wow in life, I. I Could sometimes sound like walking. Sometimes people say I, I sound like walking because it's, you know, it's like people rely on, when, when in doing walking, they rely on, you know, that lilt, you know that, you know that he has like, you know, so that kind of thing. But also another element to the walk in where it's like he gets so serious and he's whispering, you know that it's like, I want to include that piece of it too. You know, it's like telling a story. I mean, it's just, you know. [00:50:07] Speaker C: Well, that's such a big thing about acting too, is you got to take on like in all of the roles that you've done, there's so many different personalities and different, you know, you've just got to totally reinvent yourself each time. [00:50:21] Speaker A: Yeah. And you know, you know what's interesting too? And maybe you experience this because you do a little walking. I don't know if you do impressions, but it's like the. Then it's like you have to. It's this weird thing where you, you become them for a second. Like you, you. You're not just imitating them. You actually channel them, channel their energy for a second, which is just really kind of weird. And I've, I've talked to other, other people about it when they do like, someone like Chance. Chance Corbett does a really good impression of Billy Worth. [00:50:51] Speaker B: Okay. [00:50:51] Speaker A: You know Billy Worth from Lost Boys? Great impression of him. You know, like, we rip each other, you know, we give each other a hard time. And I asked him, I was like, do you know what I'm talking about? That you. And he was like, no, I, I know what you mean. You have to think like them for a second. You like, click into their thought process. It's weird. [00:51:06] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:51:07] Speaker A: Did you feel that when you were doing your. Wow. Your. [00:51:09] Speaker B: No. No, I didn't pick up anything. I'll never be an actor. Yeah. Never. [00:51:17] Speaker C: I can't do impersonations either, but I have a heart. I have a hard enough time with the English language. [00:51:25] Speaker B: Just doing it is fun. [00:51:27] Speaker A: Yeah. Yeah, there you go. And it's like we actors, we're all so anxious to embody something else. You know, it comes from our hang ups probably. Like, you know, we like, erase our personality and try to, you know, want to key in like vampires in a way. Like we, you know, it is kind of like vampires, now that I think about it. You know, where you want to suck their blood, you want to take their life, you don't want to take it. You want to you want to live it a little bit, you know. [00:51:51] Speaker C: Right. Well. And that's how a lot of actors have gotten down deep holes too. [00:51:55] Speaker A: Sure. [00:51:56] Speaker C: Getting into that dark, dark mentality for those roles that it just, they have a hard time getting out of it. [00:52:02] Speaker A: Yeah. Someone asked me about that recently about, you know, like what happens to all those roles, you know, what happens to all those characters. Do you have to like get rid of it or do you have to move on? Whatever. And I was sort of saying that, like, I don't know, that you get rid of it. I think, I think I'll get emotional thinking about it. I don't know why I'm getting emotional, but that these things become a part of us, you know, that all of these, all these things that we do. Again, I don't, I don't get why sometimes I get emotional about this kind of stuff, you know, because acting is, is so, it's almost religious for me. Like it's, it's right. [00:52:36] Speaker B: Yeah, you love it. [00:52:38] Speaker A: Yeah. The, the, the, the ritual of, of imitating life, you know, is there something about it that's so core for me? And so I don't know that these characters ever go away. I think that they're, they're in us. [00:52:53] Speaker C: Well, and I have to say I, when I look at, when I watch Lost Boys and I see you as that young 16 year old, you know who you really remind me of? A young Ralph Macho. [00:53:07] Speaker A: Uh huh. Yeah. Yeah, I've gotten that before. [00:53:09] Speaker C: Did I say it wrong? [00:53:11] Speaker A: Machio. [00:53:11] Speaker B: Machio. [00:53:12] Speaker C: Machio. Oh my God. See, I told you I struggle with the English language. But no, you, you have a lot of the same, you guys have a lot of the same look, the characteristics, the personality that you had as Alan Frog, you know, kind of him coming off as trying to be, you know, trying to be macho. That's, that's where I was going with it in the role. [00:53:40] Speaker A: Yeah, no, I, I do see that and people have said that before about, about Machio and I wish I kind of keyed into that at the time. Maybe I would have gotten some roles as like Machia's brother. Like we could have been brothers or something like that. Because I do, I do see it that. And also who was on Grey's Anatomy? McDreamy, you know. [00:53:57] Speaker C: Oh, oh my gosh, I'm horrible at names anyway. [00:54:04] Speaker A: I mean, you know, so those two. I think I was somewhere in between those two. [00:54:09] Speaker C: Yeah, for sure. [00:54:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:54:11] Speaker A: By me. Love in the 80s. Brian, Danny Bryant, something like that. [00:54:16] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:54:16] Speaker A: Easy enough to look up. [00:54:17] Speaker C: Actor names are not. Not my forte either. So in your acting journey, can you share a little bit with us about your whole journey? What inspired you, how you began to get into it with acting professionally and maybe relive those iconic AT&T and Pearl Vision commercials? [00:54:38] Speaker A: Yeah, totally. So acting for me, like, you know, one of the things that I keyed into lately is that it was different for me than it was for Feldman and Haim. And, you know, everybody's journey is different. For me, it was like I was just this kid, you know, I was this kid in. In la. Little by little, seventh and eighth grade, people started to get agents. You know, like, I had a crush on this girl and she had an agent, you know, and I started being like, an agent. Wow, that sounds so cool. I want an agent. I want to go on auditions. You know, they would leave school early to go on auditions, and so I wanted to do it, but I was a little awkward at that age. I was a little bit, you know, just kind of still a kid, you know, whatever. And. And then there was this little transformation that happened around, like, 8th, 9th grade, where all of a sudden, I don't know what it was with me, the Italian stuff coming out in me a little bit, that quarter Italian that I have, you know, but, like, I started to be kind of a little better looking and a little more like, you know, you could put me on film. You know, it was like I wasn't quite as awkward. I was. I could hold the screen a little bit, you know. And so my mom was dating this actor. His name was John. And he was like, I love this guy. He was so awesome. He was just, like, dynamic. And he. Whenever you talk to him, he had all these great ideas. And so, you know, we got to know him and. And my mom got to know his agent a little bit. And so I went into his agent and apparently she liked me. I just talked to my mom about this recently. She liked me, but I couldn't tell that. Cause she was like, yeah, you. You can't open your eyes. You know, I have like, kind of a droopy eye thing. I don't know if it's obvious, but, like, if I don't, if I'm not really engaged, my eyes will be pretty, pretty closed. And so I really have to engage to get my eyes, you know, and that's how I learned is that actually if you really look at stuff, that's how you. I can engage my eyes. I. I can't. I tried this for a while. Like, you Know, open my eyes, and it just doesn't work. You just look crazy, you know, but. But if you really look at stuff. So I, I started to key into that a little bit, and I, I took a commercial class. I, I went on one commercial audition that was so embarrassing, you know, I didn't know what I was doing. And then I took a commercial class, and all of a sudden I, I kind of got the hang of it a little bit. Came right out, booked a commercial right after that class, and it just set the tone. I, I had a little bit of money. Those commercial. Well, I mean, they still pay well, but, you know, at the time, like, for a kid, I made like, I don't know, six or seven thousand dollars on that. On that commercial. And so, you know, at that age, at 14, I wasn't. We weren't wealthy, you know, like, we weren't poor, but, you know, we were just regular family, you know. And so all of a sudden have that money. And so I wasn't, I was playing. I was playing on their money, you know, like, I was playing on the town's money, on. On Hollywood's money. I, I didn't have to shell out for pictures, you know, that. That was all that. It paid for all that stuff. Headshots and classes and this and that. So it made it really, like, possible to do it, that. That little thing. And, and so, you know, I, I booked some things and it. It seems like ages between the jobs that I booked, but if you look back on it, I was. I was working a little bit regularly and I, you know, I did. I worked with Jason Bateman. You know, I, like, as you mentioned earlier, I had. I was on Valerie show and I worked at River Phoenix. I was, I did a day on a movie of the week with River Phoenix, and, you know, I got. I really had a blast. I was starting to like, you know, casting actors were starting to know who I was. And, and it was really great. And then Lost Boys was just. Was. This brought everything to a whole new level. You know, it was like this, this. All of a sudden I was, you know, and that's how it happens, really. You know, it's like, you look at actors, you know, even like, you know, a big actor like John Carlo Esposito, I just heard that before he got the role of Fring on Breaking Bad, he was like, thought his career was over, you know. And then this is John Carlo Esposito, who's done a lot of stuff, and there's no reason why he would think his career is over. Except that that's how it goes. You know, you think you're so. I kind of thought, you know, I didn't necessarily know that Lost Boys was coming, and I was like, you know, am I just making money for college? And that's fine. Everything. And then Lost Boys hits, and it's a different category. I'm. You know, I'm. You know, even. It's not just a day I'm working with River Phoenix or a week. I'm working with Jason Bateman, but I'm working all summer long with the Coreys and with these people, you know, who are awesome actors. And I'm in the big time, kind of. So that was really cool, you know, that was really exciting. And, you know, from there on, what. [00:58:50] Speaker C: A fun location, too. [00:58:52] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:58:52] Speaker C: You mean, like location of Lost Boys? What a fun place to have, you know, spend your summer. [00:58:58] Speaker A: Yeah, it was incredible. It was. [00:58:59] Speaker C: It. [00:59:00] Speaker A: Because Santa Cruz was. I mean, having just been there, you know, I'm going there a bunch because of that show, you know, because of the. My. My podcast, my YouTube show. And it's like, there's a magic to Santa Cruz. And it's not just the weather. The weather's beautiful, but it's. There's something to it. And it was. [00:59:17] Speaker B: It's the vibe in the town. [00:59:19] Speaker A: Right? There's a vibe. Right. Have you guys been Santa Cruz? Yeah, it's like, there's a vibe. [00:59:23] Speaker B: I have. [00:59:24] Speaker A: Yeah. Right. You haven't been. Yeah, I recommend it. It's. It's. I don't even. I still can't wrap my head around what it is. Exactly. It's. It's that vibe. It's. I don't know, but there's something really magical about it. And so, you know. Yeah. Getting to spend that time there. [00:59:37] Speaker C: I thought Hollywood was magical until I went there and I was like, well, you got about a block of magic, and then the rest is. [00:59:45] Speaker A: Whoa. Oh, yeah. [00:59:46] Speaker C: Totally Hollywood. [00:59:47] Speaker A: I mean, you know, now, again, Hollywood cleaned up a bit the last, like 10 years or so, but now, again, it's getting kind of rough. And back then, I wasn't allowed to go to Hollywood. You know, like, Hollywood was scary. You know, it was like there were. There were parts, you know, that were cool or that reminded you of the fact that you were in Hollywood. But I mean, even the Walk of Fame and the stuff. That's a little. That's a little seedy, you know, it's a little bit. It's a little dirty and it is. [01:00:17] Speaker B: Yeah, that's where we went down there and yeah, we, we got attacked by Wookiees demanding that we pay them to take a picture. [01:00:29] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:00:29] Speaker C: And then you got all the people flipping their CDs and trying to give you CDs and yeah, it's a little. [01:00:35] Speaker A: Bit like, okay, so this is Hollywood because it's not really Hollywood. I mean, that's Hollywood, but it's not Hollywood. You know, that's the sort of, you know, Hollywood is really, you know, more like Hollywood really exists more in like Beverly Hills, the West side, you know, the Valley. That's really where these things really, you know, the studios are in the Valley. There's some studios in Hollywood. And again, now it's a little cleaner than it was, even though it's going south again. But so it was a stretch where, you know, we're like, you know, a house in Hollywood, you know, used to be like these. Same thing all over la. Like these houses that were like, you know, they're just little houses, you know, then they're going for like $3 million, you know, like 2 or $3 million or something like that. And it's kind of crazy. It gets, it gets sort of crazy. And so for a little while it was really. It was kind of well to do Hollywood. It was. But it's gotten a little, A little rough again. [01:01:24] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. The real estate in Hollywood or California compared to Minnesota, you could get one hell of a nice house in Minnesota for what you pay for nothing in. Or pay a lot in Hollywood. [01:01:38] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, I have a townhouse and, you know, if I sold this townhouse, I could probably get a nice house. Most other places, I mean, now the, the market is still, you know, in a city, it's. It's still going to be pretty intense, but. Yeah, I don't know. But I guess that's sort of the dream is, is like you have a house and then, you know, you downsize and, and then you have. You can pay cash for a house somewhere else. I don't know. You know. [01:02:01] Speaker C: Right. Well, I envy the California I would love. Jeremy lived in California for a little while. I only been there once. [01:02:09] Speaker B: Yeah, I lived in Salinas, so I was only about 20 minutes away from Santa Cruz and stuff, so I used to go there a lot. [01:02:18] Speaker A: Nice. You hung out, did you. Do you surf? [01:02:20] Speaker B: No, I don't surf. No. I mean, I grew up in Minnesota and I just spent a few years out there. [01:02:28] Speaker A: Gotcha. So Minnesota is probably not a huge surfing town is my guess. [01:02:31] Speaker B: No, not at all. [01:02:35] Speaker C: Probably one of the only States other than you go to Canada that you can have 70 degrees one day and it'll be negative. Yes, 70 and sunny and beautiful. And then it'll be negative 20 and storm. You'll have a thunderstorm in between there and then you'll have a blizzard all in the same 24 hour period. [01:02:51] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, I hear that. [01:02:53] Speaker C: It's crazy here. One year we had a tornado in March and then the next day or so we had a blizzard. It was crazy. [01:03:03] Speaker A: Wow. Let me tell you, Let me ask you something about tornadoes. As long as we're on the subject, like, just. I've never experienced it at all. The closest I got was I was in Louisville, Kentucky and the sky turned green. You know, they were like, that's what happens. And like there was a tornado watch. That's the closest I got. But is it, is it scary? Must be so scary. [01:03:21] Speaker C: They, when they get close, they're scary. I mean, they're, they're destructive. [01:03:25] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:03:25] Speaker B: I mean, I've never been in one myself and I've been here for 48 years, pretty much. [01:03:32] Speaker C: I've had some, I've had some close ones. We had one when I was growing up, one that came through the field across the street from us and we had a neighbor's pole barn from probably a quarter of a mile away. Their tin was wrapped around our trees and stuff. So. But other than that, I've lived in towns that have had them, but I've never had it happen like to my home, personally. [01:04:02] Speaker B: Yeah, I think a scarier thing, honestly though, is I also lived in Florida for a while and I was in Hurricane Katrina, which is the one that devastated Louisiana. Yeah, it was Only a Category 1 when it flew over us or went through us. Um, so I was out. We just moved down there at that time and I was outside walking around in the thing. And then the next hurricane that came through was a category three for us. It scared the hell out of me. Yeah, I, I instantly moved back to Minnesota. [01:04:38] Speaker A: Wow, that's. That's scary. That gets you. [01:04:39] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, I, I don't want power. [01:04:42] Speaker C: For how long too. [01:04:43] Speaker B: Well, and that's the worst thing. Yeah, we were without power for like a month on Katrina and then a month and a half for the next one. [01:04:52] Speaker A: So what do you, do you have your generator or what? [01:04:56] Speaker B: Yeah, we didn't have one, but you know, they, they get the businesses up and going first. So we were only like a block and a half from the main drag, so all the businesses were up in like maybe two or three days. But for some reason, yeah, all the houses, it took a month and a half to get them up. [01:05:16] Speaker A: Wow, that's wild. See, that's something I didn't hear about, like, that long without electricity. I mean, that must be. [01:05:22] Speaker B: I'll never move back to Florida. [01:05:25] Speaker C: I have a hard time when we lose power for a couple hours. I'm like, lost. I'm like, no computer, no Internet, no nothing. But. [01:05:35] Speaker B: Yeah, I never really experienced earthquake either. When I was in California. [01:05:40] Speaker A: I was gonna ask. [01:05:41] Speaker B: There was one that hit Hollister Hills when I was down there, but I never felt anything. [01:05:46] Speaker A: Yeah, you know, I've been in. I've been in a bunch of earthquakes, but never anything. I mean, knock on wood, everyone says something was coming, you know, but it's scary. But it's only. It's only been just scary a little bit. I've never been in a really destructive one, you know. [01:06:01] Speaker B: Okay. [01:06:02] Speaker C: I've never experienced a earthquake. [01:06:05] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, the scary. I mean, it's scary. Like, so when you had. So you didn't even feel it, you said. [01:06:11] Speaker B: Right? [01:06:11] Speaker A: Is that right? No, you read about that. It happened when you get up to like five 5.0s, you know, above that five, six, it shakes and it's scary. I mean, shakes your core. I mean, it takes you to your core, you know, and then. And then afterwards, your knees are still shaking, you know, and you're like, is it still shaking? I don't know. Yeah. [01:06:30] Speaker B: See, I'd probably move back to Minnesota after that, too, so, you know. [01:06:35] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, it can be empowering because if you have an earthquake and then like, nothing, you know, so far there's been, you know, you get in a doorway or something like that, you know, because they say the doorways, you know, I don't know if you know that story, you know, that's like the most secure. Yeah. Right. And so. But, you know, then you finish it. You almost feel like you're strong, you know, like you feel like you're invincible. There's a little bit of that, you know. [01:06:59] Speaker B: Yeah. I'm not a vampire hunter, though. Dude. I'm moving. [01:07:06] Speaker C: Well, I think pretty much anywhere where you live. There's. There's something. I mean, Minnesota, the air is so cold. It hurts your face, hurts you to breathe. You got the hurricanes, you got the earthquakes. It's. It's. There's not really a. And then if you move to the center, then you're in Tornado Alley, so. [01:07:25] Speaker B: Yeah, that's really bad down there then. [01:07:28] Speaker C: My son, he lived in Hawaii for a While he had not only the earthquakes, but he had the volcanoes. [01:07:33] Speaker A: Yeah, the volcanoes, right. And then they had a big hurricane there, didn't they, a few years ago? [01:07:37] Speaker C: Yeah, they did. That was, I think the last year that he lived there. [01:07:40] Speaker A: Yeah. Not to mention the fires, like wiped out the. Wiped out all of like the Maui and stuff. Yeah, I had my honeymoon on Maui. So. [01:07:49] Speaker C: Yeah, we were supposed to get married in Hawaii, but we never made it there. Everybody got mad because we were doing a destination. Destination. What? Oh, we were going to do that, but we did it in our backyard instead. [01:08:01] Speaker A: So that's good. That's what we should have done. We should have just gotten married in the backyard. We got a good way. [01:08:05] Speaker B: It was awesome. We built our own backdrop and everything. [01:08:09] Speaker A: Really? That's cool. [01:08:10] Speaker B: It was pretty fancy, actually. [01:08:13] Speaker C: Turning out really well. [01:08:14] Speaker B: Yeah, we had a truck bring in a bunch of sand and stuff. So we made a beach in our backyard. [01:08:20] Speaker C: We did our beach wedding in our backyard. [01:08:23] Speaker B: It was actually awesome. [01:08:24] Speaker A: How long have you guys been married? [01:08:26] Speaker B: 14 years. We met 2010. Yeah. Yeah, we met 15. [01:08:32] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:08:33] Speaker A: Right around when Kari Haim died. Not to. Yeah, Connected to that. [01:08:37] Speaker C: Yeah. So with your role as Alan Frog in the Lost Boys, it totally became iconic. What was your experience auditioning for that film? And with it being such a horror classic. I mean, it's not. It is a horror movie, but yet it's not in the same too. [01:08:55] Speaker A: Right. [01:08:55] Speaker C: And you know, how was it working alongside Corey at the Coreys, you know, with that. [01:09:01] Speaker A: Yeah. So it's like. Yeah, I mean, we've talked about this a bunch of it on panels. Like, you know, Jason Patrick just said this on a panel. We were on that. That it was. It's a comedy, you know that. It's more of a comedy coming of age movie. Right. The horror piece of it is, you know, but. But you know, at the same time, like, it's really that beach scene where they. Or the campfire scene where it becomes really hard where you're just like, wow, oh man, what's he gotten himself into here? So the audition process was like, let me see if I can capture it in almost a new way. So being just this regular kid that I was this regular kid who was working, starting to work as an actor. It was cool. I was kind of in a groove. I had reached a good place in my kind of early career where I was. I was cocky, I was auditioning a bunch. You know, as I said, I thought I was on one level. Your career might have been over because you never know when that next job is going to come. But at the same time, I had a bit of a groove, you know, and so when I went in there to audition, my agent had pulled something cool where it was a callback. I wasn't on the original. In the original audition, but so it was a callback. But they, you know, I knew the casting director, and my agent was, you know, pretty, you know, smooth talker and everything, so they got me in. And so. But it was kind of magical from the beginning because I knew Schumacher. I mean, I didn't know him, but he was. He. He was my. He was friends with my acting teacher. And so he spoke at my acting class. And so, you know, to have that connection right away with someone as an actor, especially as a kid actor, I just was, like, willing any. Any little thing. Any little thing to, like, stand out. Any. Any. You know, you're on the spot there. You're. You're just you. And they're making these big decisions about whether you're, you know, I mean, if I didn't get Lost Boys, you know, I don't think my life would have been a failure. I'm sure I would have had other things, but it would have been different, you know, I wouldn't have been Alan Frog, you know, and so these decisions that they make and these. These auditions that are just seem like this, you know, thing, and you go in and you try to have a good time and you try to impress them, that's a big deal. You know, your life goes one way or another for each one of those roles. You know, all the roles I auditioned for, sitcoms, you know, movies, things like that, you get one of those, and it's. And all of a sudden you're in a different category as what happened with Lost Boys. And so there's all this pressure, and at the same time, you're a kid and you're trying not to let the pressure get to you. And, you know, you just. So it's this combination of, like, nerves, but also it's invigorating and, you know, and everything. So it was a really good audition. It was a really successful audition. I had, you know, I talked to, you know, I had some good rapport with Joel, I think I mentioned on another podcast. Like, I was like, he asked if I'm built up, you know, if I had. Because he needed the Frog brothers to be, you know, to be strong and, you know, military, like, you know, So I was like, yeah, you know, punch me. Go ahead and punch me. Which was just, you know, it's like, whatever you can do, you know, Whatever you can do to stand out, you know, And. And so. And he was just great. And he did. He. He punched him. And he was. He was, you know, careful about it, but he was like, yeah, cool. You know, and so. And so that in itself was awesome. Next time I come back, I'm in the. I'm in the lobby. I'm in the waiting room with this kid. Again, this is going to make me emotional just because it's. It's a. You know, this is also the beginning of my relationship with Feldman. He's a good friend now, you know, and so I meet this kid and he. And we're talking, and, you know, what have you done? You know, like, there's always the question, you know, and he was like, oh, you know, I was just in Goonies, you know, I was like, oh, really? You have a big part in Goonies? And he was like, yeah, yeah, pretty part. I played Mouth, and I was like, oh, man. Okay. Okay. So this is where we are. And it's like, you know, he enjoyed the. I think he enjoyed the fact that I wasn't starstruck, really. I was. I was trying to just be. You know, I was in high school. I was 16 or 15, going about 16, you know, just trying to be this kid trying to be tough, you know, kind of thing. And I think he appreciated that. You know, I wasn't trying to kiss his ass or anything. And we just got on really well. We. We joked and we were hanging out, and you know, all. You know, we were sort of like good friends somewhat immediately. And. And part of that is Feldman. Part of. It's both of us. We're both like that, but Feldman was like that. You know, part of the reason you get to be a big star like Feldman at that age is that he was, you know, he was just. He was just natural. He was just himself looking to have a good time, you know? [01:13:36] Speaker C: Right. [01:13:36] Speaker A: And so it was. It was. That piece of it, as I look back on it, was really kind of magical, you know. And so it was complicated after that. Feldman was cast right away because it was Feldman. And, you know, they. They knew that. They wanted him in it. They just wanted to make sure he was. Could be right for it. For me, they were nervous. They were a little nervous because, you know, it's like I have an. I have a thing where acting on film. And I'm even realizing this even more now than that. Acting on film, there's a stillness that you have to do. You have to be able to be still because the audience has to be able to. The camera has to be able to capture you. And I'm. I can be. I can move around a bit. Like, I can be a little more like, you know, how you might be in life, you know, talking and, you know, things like that. So that. And the characters were tough, and I didn't, you know, it wasn't, like, natural to key into that. They were tough in a very still kind of way, that Alan Frog was tough in a very still kind of way. And so I think they were nervous. They were nervous. And I think maybe I was a little bit too much in the audition. I was a little bit, like, trying to be too mean or too tough or whatever. And so, like, a month went by. It was. It was a long time, and I just thought it was over. I thought, you know, I thought I didn't get this part, you know. Yeah, I get emotional about it because it's hard. You know, it's 15 years old, you know, that. That thing I was talking about, about your life going one way or another, you know, there's. There's a lot of pressure and, you know, it's like, it's similar to the kind of pressure I might feel at school where, you know, taking a test and is that going to be, you know, am I going to get into a good college? You know, kind of thing. So there's. There was that pressure and I was really bummed out for. For a little bit that I didn't get the part. And then they called. They had seen everybody in the world, you know, everybody in the country. They'd gone to New York and seen all the New York actors. And, you know, that was a thing back then, you know, going to New York and. And getting those. Those actors that were on stage, you know, those, you know, really awesome actors from New York. And so they. They went to New York. They didn't find what they were looking for. And so they saw everybody. They saw everybody in LA and they were still nervous about me, but they were like, come in. And so. So I went in and I kind of learned those lessons. I think, you know, they somehow they communicated that to me. Joel knew my acting teacher, so he was like, have your acting teacher work with you on being really calm, you know, being. So I did. And, and it worked. And it, and. And right then she said, I got it. You know, like, I went out of the room and Joel said to Corey, you know, who do you like? Of all the people we've Seen, you know, who do you like? And he was like, you know, I have this rapport with Jameson. I liked Jamie. They called me Jamie back then. [01:16:22] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:16:23] Speaker A: Joel was like, you know, so I was out of the lobby kind of like, knowing it went well, knowing they're talking about me, you know, not sure what was going to be. And I came back in, and he was like, congratulations, dude. You got the part. [01:16:34] Speaker C: Wow. [01:16:37] Speaker A: It was. Was a dream come true. You know, it was all the parts. All the different parts that I've auditioned, I had auditioned for, you know, it was. You know, I got some good parts. I got some good parts, but there was nothing like this. This was a real. A real role, you know, a real arc to this guy. [01:16:57] Speaker C: Well, and the one thing I've heard you talk about before, too, is you decided you came in dressed in your dad's army jacket, and they pulled that into your. Into your role. [01:17:08] Speaker A: Yeah. So it's like they had. They kind of were like, beginning to key into that. These guys were these military kids, but I don't think it was fully developed yet, you know, and so I came in my. They said military, you know, military. Tough, but clean cut. They didn't want me to be, you know, come in. I've done that before in auditions. I did that before where they wanted me to be tough, and I turned that into, like, he's a street kid, you know, and so. And that might have worked for that, but they wanted to make sure this was clean cut, so I took that. I wore a nice, clean white shirt underneath it, which they did in the movie, too, that outfit. And. Yeah, and I wore that. And it was. It was such a. Cool. I used to wear that anyway. I used to wear my dad's military stuff just because I just thought it was cool, you know, and so I was used to wearing it and had those dice on the sleeve, and it just was such a cool thing, you know, and so that helped. I think it helped get the part. It helped them visualize the characters, you know? Yeah. [01:18:04] Speaker C: Yeah, it's awesome. And we actually. I can't remember if we discussed this on the podcast already or before we started recording, but we ordered Jeremy one of the Air Force. Is that what it says on the front of it? Airborne. Airborne. The sleeveless. [01:18:19] Speaker A: You know, the thing about that is that I was looking for that shirt, and last year I was like, what? Like, I. It was like I could find it, like. Like $90 at, like, some UK shop. And I was like, I'm not gonna pay $90 for this. Shirt, you know, and so I just decided to design it. It's. It's not like, you know, it doesn't say Lost Poison. It's not right. You know, it. There might be like some copyright from the US military, you know, that I'm sort of infringing on, but I was like, I'm just gonna create it, you know. So I just created the shirt and now that's. Yeah, it's on my Shopify site. [01:18:50] Speaker C: Yeah. Well, I'll. I'll definitely put a link to that in our show notes. And then I ordered Jeremy and I both Frog Brothers T shirts to wear today. Jeremy's got his on. [01:18:59] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:19:00] Speaker C: Cold. So I put a sweater on mine. I was looking for sweatshirts because it's only 40 here today. And so our recording studio is out in our garage and we have to separate rooms. Little. I don't know how big they are. Eight by ten rooms or whatever that Jeremy built. Eight by eight? [01:19:22] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:19:23] Speaker C: And sometimes it gets a little chilly, sometimes they get hot. You never really know. But normally you're pretty good in a light sweatshirt. But I couldn't get sweatshirts before, before we recorded, so. [01:19:34] Speaker A: Well, that's good to know. Maybe I'll put a sweatshirt out there on my Shopify. Yeah, definitely. [01:19:39] Speaker C: Yeah, for sure. [01:19:40] Speaker A: There's this one thing that I'm excited about, and it's only just starting, but that I'm putting together this one man show about that period of time, about calling it summer of 86. And it's like the stories, somewhat like the stuff I was talking about about, you know, about kind of being a regular kid and auditioning and then meeting Feldman and then. And then the experience of filming it, you know, and. And then, you know, and then what happened afterwards, which is different, you know, so something as I'm. As I'm getting into it and exploring those stories, it's all kind of coming up again in a cool way, kind of remembering all this stuff. And I just think that that's going to be a cool thing, a one man show about that period of time, you know. [01:20:21] Speaker C: Definitely. [01:20:22] Speaker A: And like from my perspective too, because my perspective is very different from Feldman or Haim or, you know, any of those guys. Because those guys, you know, came. I mean, you know, some of them were new like me, but a lot of them were pedigree. I mean, you know, Kiefer and Jason, you know, has his. His dad was the, you know, the guy and the. What's his name? In Exorcist, he's the priest in Exorcist Jason. [01:20:47] Speaker C: Oh, really? [01:20:48] Speaker A: Yeah, I just found out that out recently. Isn't that wild? [01:20:51] Speaker B: Yeah, that is wild. [01:20:53] Speaker A: Yeah. Like to have that kind of connection that Jason Patrick, you know, the, the, like, lead of Lost Boys is. [01:20:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:21:00] Speaker A: Is the son of the. The one of the leads of Exorcist, you know, it's pretty trippy, you know, it's pretty cool. [01:21:05] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:21:06] Speaker A: So it's like I don't have that perspective. I don't. I didn't come from Hollywood, you know, I came from, you know, my parents. Not exactly working class. Like, you know, we weren't blue collar exactly. They're sort of white collar. But it was somewhere close, you know, pale blue. Pale blue collar, you know. And so anyway, so that's something to bring up. It's something I'm working on and probably by the end of this year, I'll have it ready and begin to begin to start showing it. I'm really excited about it. [01:21:36] Speaker C: I wish you all the success for it. And I'm, you know, we'll fly out and watch it, that's for sure. [01:21:42] Speaker A: You know, I might even. Because there's going to be a time where I'm going to, like, put a few, you know, things on video to get some opinions. Maybe I'll toss. Toss some ideas your way, see if. Get a little preview of what I'm. [01:21:51] Speaker B: Doing and, you know, that'd be cool. [01:21:53] Speaker A: The stuff up in Santa Cruz is heating up, too, that. Because we're approaching the 40th, you know, next year will be the 40th anniversary of the. Of the filming in Santa Cruz, which we could celebrate. And then the next year will be the 40th anniversary of the release. And so because I'm doing this show, the Lost Locations Show, I'm spending time up in Santa Cruz and. And I'm realizing that there's opportunity up there for us to. A lot of people come to Santa Cruz looking for Lost Boys stuff, and there's no real curating of it. There's no, you know, you can go see Joe Ferraro at the comic book store and he's got a lot of cool stuff, a lot of good stories. You can find the stuff, but it's not. I feel like for as much as people love this movie and love Santa Cruz, you can't come to Santa Cruz and have it be really, you know, there for you. [01:22:40] Speaker C: I loved the idea of you guys trying to do something with the clubhouse, right? [01:22:44] Speaker A: Yes. That's on the sort of agenda. I mean, Jason Patrick is very interested in. He even I think pitched it to the people who did the Brady House in the San Fernando Valley in la. And so they actually created the inside to look like the Brady House, even though the inside was on a soundstage. And in order to do it, they had to, like, dig, you know, it was, like, impossible to make it look that way based on the house. But they did it, you know, so Jason pitched those guys to do the same thing with Pogonip, with Grandpa's house, and they weren't into it, but I don't know why, you know. [01:23:19] Speaker C: Oh, that would be epic. [01:23:21] Speaker A: Would that be great? [01:23:22] Speaker C: You would get so much traffic. [01:23:24] Speaker A: That's what I think. And I think, like, just imagine this. And I don't know if this could happen, but, like, all of us with, like, wheelbarrows with our shirts off, you know? You know, all of us rebuilding that house together, like, how fun would that be, you know? [01:23:38] Speaker C: Oh, it would be. And then you could host stuff, you know, your own little cons and stuff out there and meet and greets and, you know, whatever. Could even have a, you know, get his liquor license and have a bar, you know, bar area. And then just do special appearances now and there. I mean, that place would be hopping. [01:23:56] Speaker A: Yeah, that's. I like it. I like it. The liquor licensing, that's a new idea. Yeah. It's like, you know how you're gonna make money doing it? It's like, that's always the question, you know, so. [01:24:04] Speaker C: Right. Get people drunk. They'll spend more money. [01:24:08] Speaker B: Yeah, but then you gotta deal with drunks. [01:24:11] Speaker C: Lost boyfriends are responsible, right? [01:24:14] Speaker A: Yeah, they are good people. Good people. [01:24:17] Speaker C: That's right. [01:24:18] Speaker A: They're good people. [01:24:19] Speaker C: That's right. They know how to party the right way. But yeah, with that and doing that lost locations and that is so fun. That is. I have loved watching all of your videos on YouTube with that and the fans seem to really love it. And doing that signing at the comic book store and stuff like that, that really brought in a lot of fun people. [01:24:42] Speaker B: Do you have any plans of doing that again at the comic book store? [01:24:46] Speaker A: Yeah. So June 13th is. We're not sure, but based on timing and when they normally do it, that it looks like June 13th this year is when they're going to do the showing on the beach of Lost Boys that they did. They do that every year. And so I'm going to go back there, then I'm going to do a signing meet and greet at the comic book store on Thursday. And then I'll do again, I'll do The same kind of thing I did last year at the boardwalk, where, you know, just signing, basically signing and meet. Meet and greet before the movie. And so. So that's really cool. And. And because now I'm. I'm. I'm starting to, like, you know, have a presence in the town a little bit and have no people and stuff, it's starting to build a little bit. And, you know, it's. This year the hotel is getting involved. The hotel where we stayed in Lost, which was a Holiday Inn back then, it was. It was sort of a regular kind of like, you know, now it's called the Paradox, and it's actually a really nice hotel. And so I'm going to stay there. They're actually copying me a room that week. And. And I think what we want to do is. And the hotel's down for this, too, is like, nobody knows that. Nobody. Very few people know that that's the hotel. But that's. There's no reason why people shouldn't know that that's where all those epic parties happened, you know, that's where, like, the Lost Boys would come back from filming and party all night, you know. So, you know, and we have pictures. We have pictures of cast, parties at the pool, you know, and different things. I have a picture of Chance checking in, sitting at the front desk, you know, and so we want to, like, present them with these pictures and have there be like, something there, like an lobby art or something like that that says, like. Right. I mean, it seems to make sense and that maybe we can actually pull some more tourism into the town, into the hotel, you know? [01:26:42] Speaker C: That is awesome. I love that. [01:26:44] Speaker B: Yeah. We'll have to try to make it down there and. [01:26:46] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:26:47] Speaker B: Because when I lived in California, I didn't actually know the movie was filmed in Santa Cruz. So I don't know when they put that placard up of ham and stuff, but I didn't. [01:27:02] Speaker A: That was pretty recent. [01:27:03] Speaker B: Oh, was it? Okay. [01:27:04] Speaker A: Yeah, I think all that stuff. I think that stuff's in the last couple years that they did that. [01:27:10] Speaker B: Yeah, I'd like to see that. I. I haven't been there probably. Probably 20 years now. [01:27:15] Speaker A: Wow. Yeah. [01:27:16] Speaker C: One episode of Lost Locations, you even had G. I. I don't know how to say his first name. I know he goes by G. The person who wrote and sang Cry Little Sister. [01:27:27] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:27:28] Speaker C: You had him in one of the shows, too. [01:27:30] Speaker A: Yeah. You know, it's like G. I love G. G's. Like when we were starting to do conventions, it was like, okay, yeah, the song is really a huge character in the movie, you know, this song, and it's such a big part of the movie. So he started coming out on the convention scene with us, and, God, he's such a great guy, such a nice guy, and so talented. He usually plays cry little sister or, you know, he has current music too, that he's writing and stuff. He's amazing guy. And what I like about, you know, to, like, plug the show a little bit, like, I didn't mean to do this. I didn't mean to, like, put him on the spot, but I was like. I kind of asked him questions that I just felt like not everybody's gonna ask him, you know, like. [01:28:12] Speaker C: Right. [01:28:12] Speaker A: You know, like, I wanted. I wanted to know what the song was about for him. And, you know, because I. I kind of figured out. And, you know, you see this. You probably remember this from the show. It's like, for me, it's about. I figured out what it's about, and it turns out that that's not what it's about for him. He was almost, like. Almost offended. He wasn't offended. It was friendly. But he got a little bit like, no, that's not what the song's about. [01:28:39] Speaker C: That's what it is with music and film and everything. It's. Everybody can interpret it their own way. I can listen to a song, and you and Jeremy could listen to a song, and we'll have three totally different interpretations of what it. To us. [01:28:55] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:28:56] Speaker A: Yeah. Totally. Totally. I feel like that happens a lot when you talk to musicians and you're like, you assume the song is about one thing because it seems obvious. And it turns out for them, it's about something completely different, you know? [01:29:07] Speaker C: Right. [01:29:08] Speaker B: You know, and it seems like a lot of them will just say, well, how did it make you feel? You know? [01:29:14] Speaker C: Right. [01:29:14] Speaker A: Yeah. You know, I should ask you guys your opinion on this, because I've been meaning to do this now. It's. It's like so long, and I can't believe nobody's done it yet. But I was thinking about putting together a little book of scripts that you can film. Like two, three minute little scripts, because people are into this kind of stuff. And having been, you know, with my kids, like on a weekend, I was like, hey, let's shoot a little movie. But it takes. You got to. You really need a script, you know, and so sit down and write the script. But I don't have that kind of, like, forethought, you know, And I assume most other people don't. Have as much, you know, maybe have a little more than me, but you know what I mean? So I think that'd be kind of a cool idea, you know, like maybe 10 scripts that you could film easily on a weekend. [01:29:56] Speaker B: Yeah, we actually talked about doing something like that. We're kind of gonna make like a stage, you know, and then change screens and it was kind of going to be. Have you ever seen Will Arnett's show? The. I think it's called Murderville? [01:30:14] Speaker A: It's called what Murder Phil. I don't know if I saw that one. I mean, he. Because I see him in so much these days, you know, here, it's just. [01:30:21] Speaker C: Kind of like an off the cuff. Totally. What do you call that? Improv. [01:30:27] Speaker B: Yes. So he'll. He'll take a mystery guest and bring him on the show. He actually had Conan O'Brien on one of them. And. Yeah. So basically Will's playing a detective and he goes around and tries to solve this murder mystery or whatever, you know, and so Conan's like the assistant detective or whatever and that's right. Yeah. He has no lines or nothing. You know, it's all. His part is all improv, so it's pretty cool. [01:31:04] Speaker C: Yeah, I. I applaud people that can do improv. I mean, you totally have to be like, on constantly. [01:31:11] Speaker A: Yeah, Improv is. You know, some people are like, I can. I can do it when I'm in a group, but I can. It also is like I've done it before where it's like you're self conscious. You get a little self conscious and you just can't do it. You got to just kind of like roll. Let it fly and fall on your face, you know, kind of. That's really cool. [01:31:28] Speaker C: I would. I mean, I think sometimes I could be on, and other times I'd just be like a deer in headlights. What? [01:31:33] Speaker A: What? [01:31:33] Speaker C: Wait. But no, I heard you talk about that on another podcast, how you talked about it, because that way, like, when kids get together and they want to do something fun, they can just grab their phones and then kind of play off of the scripts that you have created in these books. I think that is a really fun. I guess I don't even remember it. Maybe it was. It could have been at Crypticon or something. I don't know. We listened to so many different things that you had done or. And we talked to you at Crypticon quite a bit too, so it might have been there as well. But I do remember you bringing that up because you had said that, you know, your Kids, you and your kids like to do stuff like that. And it would be fun to publish something that. So kids can just grab it and hey, let's make a movie. You know, I think it's a great idea. [01:32:19] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:32:20] Speaker C: And with Amazon now, I mean, a lot of people are able to put some great things out there because you can self publish. You don't have to go through all of the money of having a publisher and stuff like that. [01:32:32] Speaker A: Yeah, you know, I. I wrote. I did it with. I started. Started it with a good friend of mine and we came up with something cool, but I'm not sure. I think I need to do it slightly different. You know, it's like we came up with kind of a series, like a. A series with short episodes, which is also kind of cool. You know, it was kind of like a not quite Doctor who, but it was like a space series. It was called. [01:32:53] Speaker C: Well, and you could also do like a. A choose your. [01:32:55] Speaker B: Like your Mr. Metabolism. [01:32:58] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, it's funny. Same collaborators. [01:33:04] Speaker B: That guy. Yeah, that was pretty funny. [01:33:07] Speaker C: But you could also do it, like, choose your own adventure type thing. If you want to do this, then you could have this outcome. If you want this, you could have this outcome. [01:33:15] Speaker A: You're right, actually. You're right because you can just be like. Just have the different versions in the script and then. Yeah, the people can just shoot their version. Or you can be like. And then have a page with the question mark, like, what do you. You know? Or whatever, you know. [01:33:27] Speaker B: Or you could do like YouTube lives or something, you know, and then have the people in the chat room kind of direct how you wanted. They want you to play it out or, you know, that'd be kind of cool. [01:33:39] Speaker C: Yeah, that would be very interactive. People would love that. [01:33:43] Speaker B: That's kind of what I was thinking for our thing back in the day when we were, you know, kind of thinking about doing it. But then Mergerville came out and I was like, yeah, now I don't want to. [01:33:55] Speaker C: But yeah, there's so many fun. I mean, the world has changed so much with technology and interaction and all of that. So there's so much different, you know, different things that you can do now and really put stuff out there and it's kind of. It. In some senses it's kind of scary, but in other senses, it's. It's fun, it's adventurous and. [01:34:16] Speaker A: Right. And it's like you can really. The average person can get involved in this stuff in ways that we really couldn't. I mean, when I say we because I'm both an average person and also, you know, in Hollywood, you know. [01:34:27] Speaker C: Right. [01:34:27] Speaker A: But it's like there's, there's, there was always this barrier between like being able to actually make a movie or, you know, and there's really not anymore. [01:34:37] Speaker C: No, there's not. I mean, you have a lot of people that are, you know, doing these. You know, you have a lot of indie podcasts, you have a lot of indie filmmakers. And I was just watching, somebody followed us on Instagram recently and they're doing a. And I can't think of the name of the movie, but I was watching the trailer that they're making and it's a totally self funded movie and it's about a serial killer who's obsessed with dinosaurs basically. And I was like, what? What? But the trailer that they made, you know, I was like, the concept sounded really weird, but the trailer was amazing. I'm like, this is somebody just funding this and doing it themselves. [01:35:19] Speaker B: Oh, it was a lot of people doing that. You know, it's like the Goonies trailer that's out there. It's phenomenal. And it looks like, man, I would totally watch that. But unfortunately it's not real. [01:35:33] Speaker C: Oh, there's a fake Goonies trailer out there. [01:35:35] Speaker A: Yeah, I got to see that. I haven't seen that. [01:35:37] Speaker B: Yeah, there's a ton of people that thought, oh my God, they're doing a remake of the Goonies. You know, they have it as like, you know, all the kids now are adults and their kids are going around adventuring and I mean, it's a great trailer. [01:35:54] Speaker A: Is it? With the original guys as the parents? [01:35:56] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [01:35:58] Speaker A: That's fun. So they, they all got together to do that. That's pretty brilliant. [01:36:01] Speaker C: No, it's fake. [01:36:02] Speaker B: Oh, it's fake. [01:36:03] Speaker C: Oh, you mean made it up? [01:36:05] Speaker B: Yeah, because somebody asked, he was like, no, we're not doing no remake. So AI is amazing. But yes. [01:36:14] Speaker C: Somebody spoofed it. [01:36:15] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:36:16] Speaker A: Wow. And they put it together. Put the video together with AI Yeah. [01:36:20] Speaker B: And it looks, it looks legit. Like you couldn't tell. It didn't come out of a big movie production. [01:36:28] Speaker A: I gotta see that. I gotta go take a look at that. [01:36:30] Speaker C: If you can't find it, I'm sure Jeremy can find it for you. [01:36:33] Speaker B: Yeah, sure. I can't. [01:36:35] Speaker A: Did you come across my Wiki Soap? [01:36:37] Speaker B: The. [01:36:38] Speaker A: My Wiki soap stuff? [01:36:40] Speaker C: I. When I was re. Doing a lot of research on you, I came across. I wasn't sure what it was, but then I looked into it. It was. You were doing like Soap opera scripts or something, right? [01:36:50] Speaker A: Yeah. So the idea with that, and this is something I still want to do, but I. I didn't handle it quite right when I did it. Then it's like that we shoot a little pilot and. And in this case it was this eight minute pilot. I would do more like a one or two minute pilot every two minute and then. And each character has like signature things that they wear. The lead guy wears a Hawaiian shirt, you know, that's like his sort of costume. And then, you know, his wife wears a red dress and, you know, maybe always red dressing, red lipstick. And so anybody can play those characters. You just put on those outfits, you know, because it's like with James Bond, I mean, we buy that different actors play different, play the same character. [01:37:27] Speaker C: Right. [01:37:28] Speaker A: So. So you can. And then I had this little site, I really created this. I mean, I got a designer to do it where any scene that's up there, you could post a prequel or a sequel to that scene. So. And then once your scene is up there, anybody can post a prequel or sequel to your scene. And so what I was hoping is that it would just kind of grow that way, you know, where, you know, and it becomes this community created soap opera where you think these characters should do this, do it, shoot it. [01:37:57] Speaker C: Oh, that is awesome. We kind of did the same concept with POD or with a podcast story, really, but not with video. [01:38:06] Speaker B: We had like 15 different podcasts all join in. So we started the story, we wrote the first part, and then each podcast after that was supposed to write their own section and it turned out really good. [01:38:20] Speaker C: Yeah, so it was like a progressive story. So if you go out to our podcast and look for search for Willowbrook, we all collaboratively wrote this story and then Jeremy put all the sound effects and editing and it turned out really good. [01:38:37] Speaker A: And then what did you do? How did you do it? Or did you do it in AI or what? [01:38:42] Speaker C: No, we just did it in audio. [01:38:45] Speaker A: Oh, I see. Audio. That's good. [01:38:46] Speaker C: Yep, just audio. [01:38:48] Speaker A: That's awesome. [01:38:49] Speaker B: Yeah, most of our stuff is audio. [01:38:51] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm gonna have to check that out. [01:38:53] Speaker C: Yeah, it was so fun. And then everybody reads their own part, so we start off reading ours, and then the next podcast will come pick up where we left off, and then like each person will leave off on like a cliffhanger and then the next podcast picked up. And so it was really fun. [01:39:09] Speaker B: Yeah, it was a lot of. A lot of fun. [01:39:12] Speaker C: But yeah, so we've done a few fun collabs kind of in the same concept. But I love the video. You know, like having somebody like pick up off of the script and do a video with the same kind of, you know, costume idea, that is wonderful. But yeah, I did come across that wiki and I think there's even a wiki. Isn't it on Instagram too? A wiki account that you had, I. [01:39:37] Speaker A: Think on either on Twitter or Facebook. [01:39:39] Speaker C: I had one of the two. Yeah, I remember coming across it. [01:39:43] Speaker A: Yeah. And if you look on YouTube, you can see the pilot. It's like an eight minute pilot. It'll. You can find it on my YouTube channel. You know, it's on my. I'm pretty sure it's on my YouTube channel. I mean, it is definitely somewhere on my YouTube channel. [01:39:58] Speaker C: We'll check it out. That sounds really fun. [01:40:00] Speaker A: It'd be cool, right? Because I mean, you know, it's like. I think the other key to doing it, first of all is, yeah, it's having shorter. The shorter episode. But also I need to really partner with like, maybe for like either theater companies or acting classes or something like that to get it started to be like, you guys go, just go to town. I don't even want to know what you're going to do. Just come up with great stuff and you guys come up with great stuff and then maybe it starts bouncing off each other and then, you know, so maybe that's the way to do it. [01:40:26] Speaker C: That's very. [01:40:27] Speaker A: Ideas, you know. [01:40:28] Speaker C: Oh, totally. [01:40:29] Speaker B: Yeah. That's a good one. [01:40:30] Speaker C: Yeah. And then even if you had people, you know, at home play off of it, create like people at home to be able to interact with it. Say, okay, we're going to do a spin off. We're going to have a little sequel to this. This is the storyline, this is the. What you're going to wear. And then have people submit videos to you keeping, you know, with the storyline going. [01:40:52] Speaker A: Yeah, sure. You mean submitting to me? [01:40:55] Speaker C: Yes, submitting them to you or to whoever's putting it together. So it'd be like a big surprise for you or whatever. But you start off the main scene, kind of do like a progressive story like we did with Willowbrook, but make it a progressive video series. And you start off the main storyline, give everybody what they should wear, what characters they are, and then they play off, you know, and just kind of make it progressive. Just kind of a fun idea to include the fans in it. Because fans love interacting. [01:41:26] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, I, I think the fans should do it. I just, I'm trying to cut myself out of The. I want them to just. [01:41:33] Speaker C: I see. [01:41:34] Speaker A: You know, like. [01:41:34] Speaker C: Right. [01:41:35] Speaker A: So it's like. Yeah, you know, get those. Those four groups to do it, but at the same time, anybody can do it. It's just that people. People don't know about it yet, you know, so they have to watch these guys sort of do it. And then. Yeah, and then you just post. You just post. You just like, you see. You see a scene. [01:41:47] Speaker C: Perfect. [01:41:47] Speaker A: Let me do a sequel to that. And you want. You want the guy to kill someone else. I mean, you know, it's still. You have to reconcile. Different groups may do different stuff, but do whatever you want. Yeah, right. [01:41:57] Speaker B: Sounds. [01:41:58] Speaker C: Yeah, no, that would be awesome. That would be it. Just, you know, create a page for it and then everybody can submit it and then they can put together the story however they want. Yeah. You and Corey have such a chemistry. Was it quite the trio when you guys were together? Did you have that chemistry with the three of you? [01:42:17] Speaker A: Yeah, it really was. We had a lot of fun together, me and the two Coreys, you know, before they were the two Coreys, you know,. We just Cory and Cory. And then on set too, I mean, there's a couple of pictures that I came across that I put out there that's like on my Shopify site. There's like a. I have like a coaster with this picture on it and a shirt with this picture on it where it's us just horsing around. You know, it was probably like just before a take or something like that. And we're just karate kicking each other. You know, we're all about 15. I had just turned 16. I think Haim was still 14, but, you know, about to, you know, kind of thing. You know, we were really close in age and just. It just. We had a lot of fun, you know. [01:42:57] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm sure. Yeah, well. [01:42:59] Speaker C: And it seemed like the chemistry. You can see it on the movie too. And I know you were a part of doing stuff in the future. I mean, I know you did that show the Tale of Two Coreys and. But you had quite the different life that they did. I mean, they kind of went into the partying scene and then you didn't go into that where a lot. We end up losing a lot of young actor, the drugs and alcohol and which is. It's such a tragedy that that happens. And I can't imagine how that affected you, being so close with him for that period of time. And I mean, River Phoenix, you got Corey Haim. And not just to name a couple that you worked with that unfortunately, you know, succumb to their demons. [01:43:50] Speaker A: Yeah, it's, you know, the thing about it is that part of the reason I, it's this kind of mixed thing where if I, I really did not understand how to party or like, you know, I didn't understand what the concept of party, you know, at the time I was really young in that way. Like I, I wasn't at school, I didn't go out on weeknights, like, you know, on weekends I would go see a movie maybe with you know, friends or try to get into some sort of like, you know, I don't know, whatever. You know, we play, actually played ditch, you know, in the middle of the night sometimes like go to a park and play like, you know, stuff like that and get donuts, you know, trying to find something fun to do kind of thing, you know. But I didn't really know how to party and I, you know, it's a two edged sword, I mean, or it's a two sided thing where the. I would have done better in my career I think at the time if I was out there partying, which is interesting because maybe it also would have been, you know, the end of me too. You know, there's this story that I was, I don't think I was telling you guys but it's, it's been on my mind lately that like there was a time where I went out with Corey and Corey and we went back to Hang's place and you know, it's like my girlfriend was there or this woman I was dating at the time was there or woman, girl, you know, she was my age but you know, it's like we were just having a good time and everything like that, but. And then they wanted to go to Club Hollywood and so, and it was like, you know, I had a car and so I was one of the people with the car. And so I drove him to Club Hollywood and I was supposed to park and then come in and I was just like, I don't know, I just took off, you know, I mean he went in, he was happy to go and he wasn't worried about me. And I was like, I don't know what I'm going to do. First of all, Hollywood, you know, on a Saturday night, you know, trying to park, you know, it's like I spend a lot of money or whatever, you know, but that factor, you know, just like I don't know what to do here. But also I just didn't know how to party in that way. And so you Know, it's. It's this thing where I do think it kind of hurt me in my career, but at the same time, like, I feel grateful that I didn't go that way. [01:45:51] Speaker C: Right. [01:45:52] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:45:53] Speaker A: It would have been great to navigate it well, but who knows if I would have done that. [01:45:56] Speaker C: Right. Yeah, it's. It's kind of like you can't. If you go back and change time, what's it going to affect in the future? [01:46:04] Speaker A: Right, right. And I mean, river was. It was. All of. All of them are tragic. River, you know, a movie of the week with him in 85. And it was. I was sure that we had a really nice, you know, the kind of. The chemistry that I had with the Coreys. You know, I had similar chemistry with river because he's a great kid. He was just a great kid. So I was sure that we were going to work together again. You know, we. We were a really good team in that, you know, we just had that one scene together, but we were, I thought, a really good team. And I was like, I'm gonna work, you know, with him again, you know, to lose him, you know. You know, and then. And it's sort of when. When Haim died, it was a. It was reminiscent of that too, because I. I was looking forward to doing cool movies with Haim now that he was back and now that I was back and he was back, you know. So, you know, it's. It's all this kind of subtle ways that those losses affect me, affect us, you know? [01:46:56] Speaker C: Well, and you and Corey actually both auditioned for. Was it. I know it had a different name. Was it the Body, which became Stand By Me? [01:47:05] Speaker A: Yeah, Yeah, I auditioned for. Yeah, I just. For Feldman's role in the Body. That was my first feature film audition, which is just really exciting kind of thing because I was auditioning for, like, commercials and, you know, maybe a little part on a sitcom, you know. And at the time, TV was like, you know, the stepchild. Like, I mean, it was like they were doing some cool stuff on tv, but it was still. It wasn't. You wanted that feature film career, right? And so. So I got this feature film audition, and it was the Body. And it was like, oh, wow, it's Stephen King Story and everything like that. And, you know, it's like, it was my first big audition like that, and I was like, in the. In the. You know, just overthinking it. I'm doing my best, but, like, you know, there's no way I was going to beat out Feldman, you know, If I. If I knew who I was up against, you know, because it's like, he's a veteran at that point, and he nailed that, you know, he had a groove on that part, you know, so. And actually, I didn't expect to get it. I didn't expect to get it because it was my first, but it was exciting. [01:48:04] Speaker C: Well, it is exciting. And having the opportunity to do that and the. It seems like you and Feldman really do have that everlasting friendship. You seem. It's like, you may not see each other all the time, but when you guys do get together, like I brought up before that Lost Girls video, I mean, everything just clicks with the two of you, and you play off of each other so well. That's why I truly hope that we can figure out something to get together and do this ghost hunt to get you a true experience. [01:48:36] Speaker B: Even a podcast, you know, having you guys do a podcast would be awesome. I'd love to. [01:48:41] Speaker C: Oh, the two of you. [01:48:41] Speaker A: Actually, we should do that. I mean. And I mean, doing ghost hunting together would be fun because, you know, because I had to go to the bathroom every second when we. We missed out on what could have been some fun banter. [01:48:52] Speaker C: Well, there was a scene that you had come back, and they had a pair of glasses sitting on. They were in a bathroom doing something. They had a pair of glasses sitting on the toilet. They're like, well, we just need to do. To bring you into the scene. [01:49:07] Speaker A: That's great. [01:49:08] Speaker B: I must have missed that one. [01:49:11] Speaker A: You know, it's like, you gotta. You gotta take some. You gotta take your knocks. You know, you get. [01:49:15] Speaker C: Oh, totally. [01:49:16] Speaker A: I. I rip on people enough. You know, I like, make fun of. I mean, in a funny way, like, you know, I'll be like, hanging out with friends. And that's part of my humor, is to kind of rip on people in a. You know, rip on my friends in a clever way, whatever, And. And back. You know, you got to take. You got to take it if you're going to dish it out. So, you know. [01:49:32] Speaker C: Oh, for sure, for sure. But, yeah, that was. I mean, the chemistry you guys have is. Is very iconic, and it's very fun. [01:49:40] Speaker A: There really is something special between me and Feldman in terms of our chemistry. Like, and it was right from the beginning. And, you know, that's something I just realized going back to the summer of 86 show that I was like, there's that moment where inter. Corey Feldman, you know, and all of a sudden, we're just talking. I'm just talking to this guy. Who was in Goonies, you know, and. But he's just this kid just like me, you know? And so I think. I think in my Summer of 86 show, I think I'm even gonna do my best impression of Feldman, like, dress up how he dressed up, and maybe even. I'm hoping I can even ask his advice, like, watch me and, like, tell me, you know, how to act, you know. [01:50:19] Speaker C: Yeah, that would be amazing. [01:50:23] Speaker B: That'd be cool. [01:50:24] Speaker C: So do you have favorite memory of shooting the Lost Boys or, you know, any kind of memorable, fun things that would happen behind the scenes that other people might not be aware of? [01:50:36] Speaker A: Yeah, so let me think about this here. Like, there's a lot of things that stick out as, like, amazing things that just sort of. Those moments were, like, changed my life in certain ways. And I think that offset. There's a. There's a moment that keeps coming back to me where. I mean, I. I get emotional thinking about it, because it's just. It's so much a part of that experience when. When I flew up with Feldman and, you know, checked into the hotel and, you know, and everything like that, and it was like, okay, you know, here we are, like, this is, you know, we're at the hotel. [01:51:09] Speaker C: Happening. [01:51:09] Speaker A: Yeah, this is happening. And here I am hanging out with Corey Feldman. Then he's like, you want to go see Haim? You want to go meet Corey Haim? And I was like, yeah, let's go meet Corey Hay. You know, like, so. And I think that's. That's probably that. So. So we went into. And I. I think I described this on another show as. Well, so this isn't. We don't have the first. The first take on this, unfortunately, but it's going to be slightly different, you know, but it's like that. That room, the vampires were hanging out there. Billy Worth, Brooke McCarter, you know, I think those guys. And, like, they're sort of. Maybe they had a little bit of an entourage and. And those guys were. I mean, those guys. I don't even know if they were partying or if they were just like, New Yorkers or, you know. I mean, Billy Worth being like, you know, hey, you know, let me get a coffee. You know, it's like, you know, and then. And here I am hanging out with Corey Hayne. You know, like, I. You know, I've just seen Lucas, you know, like, not too long before, and I thought he was awesome and. And wanted to work with him. And he. Here we are, you know, here we are hanging out, you Know, I think that was it. That was a really memorable moment. And. [01:52:14] Speaker B: Oh, I'm sure. [01:52:16] Speaker A: And some other stuff at the hotel as well, which is starting to come up again, because I'm going up to the hotel. I'm gonna. In. In June. I'm gonna be staying at that hotel when I go up to Santa Cruz. [01:52:26] Speaker C: Oh, that's right. You. You did mention that. I just couldn't imagine the nostalgia with it. And, I mean, what a great group of people. And, you know, and, like, even the Coreys, they were plotted against each other in Hollywood. They were kind of. Kind of plotted against each other. And then they had this thing with both of them dating the same girl or something you were talking about. Or an interview with Corey Feldman, talking about how he was sitting in the casting room or whatever, and they're like, okay, well, let's. Let's call Corey. And he's like, what do you mean? I'm right here. And then when he found out it was the other Corey, he was kind of like, ooh. But then he said what really changed his mind on it is he got home and he had a voicemail from Corey Haim saying, hey, dude, we're gonna be in the same movie. Let's hang out. Let's do this. And. Yeah, very cool. [01:53:21] Speaker A: And I have that voicemail. No, I'm kidding. [01:53:23] Speaker C: I was gonna say, really? That would be amazing. But, yeah, so there's just so many different. I mean, both of all three of you. Just, like I said, the chemistry. And then the chemistry with the older actors, too. Even though most of the other vampires really don't say all that much, they added so much to the film. [01:53:47] Speaker A: Yeah. I've been known to say on panels that I. I didn't realize that it was so much about the vampires, you know, because in the script, it really. It really wasn't. It was like, if you look at the lines, the lines were the Emersons and us, you know, Keeper had some lines, but, yeah, the vampires, you know, Billy Worth, I think, just says, right. We might have talked about this. He says he missed sucker. And then. Yeah, yeah, something else. Some other little thing. I forget what. [01:54:13] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. They don't. [01:54:15] Speaker C: Yeah, they don't have a lot of lines. [01:54:17] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:54:18] Speaker C: But the impact, I think. Yeah. [01:54:20] Speaker A: Alex Winter's like, hey, Michael. You know, like, on the bridge, whatever, you know, like, that's almost all he says, I think, you know. [01:54:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:54:26] Speaker C: You know, they'll do, like, the. The little laughing and, like, hitting each other, like, you know, on the carousel and in the video shop. And stuff. They got the bad boy Persona, but, yeah, there's not a lot of dialogue. It's just. But they don't even show them as vampires until 40 minutes in. I think it is what it is. [01:54:46] Speaker A: 40 minutes. Yeah, that's. [01:54:47] Speaker C: I think it's like 40 minutes before they actually show them as vampires. [01:54:52] Speaker A: Yeah, it's like we draw them in. Draw them in as like, these are. These. Are these bad boy, you know, cool guys. Sexy, you know, man. You know, guys that you want to hang. You know, bikers that you want to hang out with. And it's like, no, no. In fact, these guys are killing us. Well. [01:55:07] Speaker C: And I think the thing that I was really glad that we did is when we went. That was our first con that we went to that we met you and Chance and V, and I really didn't know. The schedule wasn't really kind of clear. And we had just kind of stumbled on that. There was panels, and we went down and we listened to the panel with you and V and Chance and getting a lot of that behind the scenes stuff and V's take on, you know, how they originally wanted the vampires to look. And then that was cool how she changed kind of that. She wanted it to be not as, like, you know, scary and gory. And then, you know, like, the contacts that they were wearing, they could only wear for so long because they were those thick, you know, and you had to wear those in the. Was it in the Thirst? In the Thirst, yeah. [01:56:00] Speaker A: Yeah. But by the time I had them, the technology was much better. This was like cutting edge technology, which was like basically cutting a ping pong ball in half. And I think it may have even been. It probably wasn't happening, but it was like that. It might have even been thicker than that. [01:56:18] Speaker C: You know, they were the hard contacts, and that was something that people wore. I couldn't imagine. [01:56:26] Speaker A: You know, it was like it was fully around their eye, you know, it wasn't. You know, it was like a half sphere kind of thing. [01:56:35] Speaker C: Right. [01:56:36] Speaker B: Ouch. [01:56:37] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:56:37] Speaker C: Oh, wow. [01:56:38] Speaker A: Yeah. And they had to hang upside down, you know, and, like, from the cave, you know, supposedly we kicked sand in Alex Winter's eyes when he. Because, you know, I mean, I don't think it was me. I think it was Feldman, you know, but you did it. [01:56:55] Speaker C: You did it. [01:56:56] Speaker A: But it's like when he. When he fell, they were like. They were kind of wanting us to kick at him, like, you know, because it's like, you know, what are these kids gonna do? They're not just gonna Let him, you know, kicking at him. And so I think that that's what had happened. And he had to go to the emergency room. [01:57:10] Speaker B: Oh, boy. [01:57:11] Speaker C: Oh, no. [01:57:13] Speaker A: Yeah, I think he got a scratch cornea. You know, it's like you get a little piece of sand and something that's already messed up like that. And. [01:57:19] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, if I get something underneath my soft contacts that I wear today, it's a little tiny piece of whatever will feel like you got a boulder in your eye. [01:57:30] Speaker A: Right. Even if I get something on my glasses, it messes me up. [01:57:34] Speaker C: Yeah, it's tough. So speaking of, like, the tribe and the Thirst, I know that now. I'm gonna mix them up. The Tribe was the second one, right? [01:57:44] Speaker A: Yeah. You know, I remember it's like the Thirst is like the third. [01:57:47] Speaker B: The Thirst. [01:57:49] Speaker A: Yeah. Yes. I think they were kind of getting it. [01:57:51] Speaker C: So in the tribe, they had talked about bringing you back. Bringing you back, bringing you back. Then you did say shoot a scene, but then it ended up being a cut scene, which was a good thing because then you were able to form that character in the Thirst and have that reunion with Corey in that movie. Do you have any memories or anything that you want to discuss on those two films? [01:58:17] Speaker A: Yeah. So, I mean, you know, the Thirst, I mean, the second one, the Tribe, you know, even though it was like, you know, in my opinion, the scene was, you know, too cheesy, maybe just kind of not well thought through, you know, and so I'm happy went to the, you know, as you said, it's like, I'm happy you went to the special features, but doing it was a lot of fun, you know, showing up on set. It was like Lost Boys. Here we are on the set of Lost Boys again. You know, like, I got a call from the, you know, the production coordinator, and it was like, you know, I'm calling from the set of Lost Boys. You know, it's like, that was cool. You know, just that. But then also I saw Haim there and, you know, Feldman and. Was Feldman there? Of course. Yeah. Yeah. I'm wondering. Actually. [01:58:57] Speaker B: Yeah, the kid goes to Feldman for help or something, or. [01:59:02] Speaker C: Yeah, the girl goes to Feldman. He's kind of. [01:59:05] Speaker A: Oh, right. She's like, it's your brother or whatever. Oh, no, no. She. Or something like that. [01:59:10] Speaker C: Yeah. I can't remember. But yeah, Feldman is in it. [01:59:13] Speaker B: That one I haven't seen as many times. [01:59:15] Speaker C: Yeah, I've only watched that one once or twice. I think it might not have been. [01:59:20] Speaker A: Oh, no, no, he was there. He was there. That's Right, that's right. Because some of it was captured in on the Two Coreys, the second season of the Two Coreys. [01:59:27] Speaker B: The. [01:59:27] Speaker A: Okay, that reality show. Yeah. [01:59:29] Speaker C: Yeah. [01:59:30] Speaker A: So anyway, so that was a lot. I thought that was a lot of fun, you know, doing that. But it was also a little bit like, I was like, you know, a little skeptical that it was gonna work, you know, and so. But the Thirst. Wow. The Thirst was amazing. We went to South Africa for the Thirst. We. We filmed that in Cape Town, South Africa. And. And it was just a lot of fun. We were there for six weeks. I mean, you know, I was there with my one year old kid and my wife, you know. [01:59:57] Speaker C: Oh, wow. [01:59:58] Speaker A: So that was like not a great choice I think to bring our one year old. I think it would have been better to stay home. But you know, it was like we just had this kid and you know, it's like, I don't know, moving away from him for six, six weeks and you know, like. So we totally threw off his sleep schedule. But we had some good times there. [02:00:16] Speaker B: Yeah. [02:00:17] Speaker A: You know, like, can you imagine? We had just gotten him sleeping well and then 12 hour time difference and two 12 hour flights. But it's child abuse basically, you know. And also, you know, somewhere I have videos, I have to find it on this computer. I think I have some videos. I was going to do a video blog because I thought it was easy to do a video blog. So I just shot the videos, but I never really put the blog together. But I gotta find those videos from the Thirst. There's some good videos of me like practicing with the, the katanas and things like that, you know. [02:00:48] Speaker C: Wow. [02:00:49] Speaker A: So it was sort of like going to. I mean, it's kind of like going to Santa Monica actually, you know, like it was like that, that same kind of vibe. It was by this. By the ocean. It was really nice area and stuff. And yeah, it just, it was a pretty grueling schedule. Like I think I got off the plane and they handed me a cell phone and I was like due on set, like, you know, kind of thing. [02:01:10] Speaker C: Wow. [02:01:11] Speaker A: Yeah, it was, you know, to do like a fight. It wasn't a real. It wasn't to shoot because you can't really shoot on the same day that you fly, but right to do like a, a fight rehearsal where I was flying, you know, like just having, you know, flown in from la. Like I. All of a sudden I'm on a wire. [02:01:27] Speaker B: Yeah, man, that'd be brutal. [02:01:31] Speaker A: And so, you know, I did all the. Why I Did the wire. Some of the wire work. And I did. I learned all the fights. They taught me all the fights. And I got cheers from. From other people while I was rehearsing on set because I was. I did a pretty good job. I thought I had stage combat in college, you know, so. But then they had the stunt guys do it. [02:01:47] Speaker B: Okay. [02:01:48] Speaker C: Oh, no. [02:01:49] Speaker A: I know. I got to set and they were like, no, we almost. We've almost finished shooting it up. Great. That's great. [02:01:57] Speaker B: Go figure. [02:01:59] Speaker C: Well, and I love, like, with your talent in watching, you know, Jeremy and I have been revisiting over the past few months, have been revisiting a lot of your films and stuff. And I mean, you've had, you know, the Blob, the Bone, Tomahawk, Love's Last Resort, you know, the Tale of Two Coreys. I haven't watched that one. I couldn't find. [02:02:20] Speaker B: I couldn't find it either. I. I actually spent like a day and a half trying to find it, really. [02:02:26] Speaker C: And then we walked. [02:02:27] Speaker A: Nobody had cop in that. I played the cop that. [02:02:29] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [02:02:31] Speaker C: And then you have the walking nightmare and waking nightmare. Excuse me. But like, Bone, Tomahawk, we touched on a little bit. You, you know, you played the mayor in there, but your ability to take on these different characters and the personality that you bring in, you know, it's just like with the mayor, it was kind of that, you know, the wife is kind of the domineering and Kurt Russell's talking to her instead of you, and, you know that you're just kind of like the. The humor of, you know, does anybody know how to spell? Yeah, it was just. I love that. And then in Love's Last Resort, you. How did you prep for having to do the French accent? Is it just something that came to you? Did you have to watch, do some dialect training or. [02:03:22] Speaker B: That was one of my questions. [02:03:24] Speaker A: I did, you know, I was in French in high school. I took French and. Okay. And I. And I had a particularly good accent. My accent saved me in a little bit because I wasn't as good a student in French as I, you know, as I could have been. So having a good accent, my teacher, like, gave me a little extra, you know, like a little. A little leeway, you know, and then even I was supposed to do a. I was. I was sort of preparing to do a kind of a competition with. As a, you know, speaking French, you know, kind of, you know, you memorize something in high school kind of thing. We ended up not doing it, but so I had A little bit of basis there. [02:03:56] Speaker C: Okay. [02:03:56] Speaker A: And then. And then I watched Little Mermaid. You know that scene is a Little Mermaid. [02:04:01] Speaker C: Yes. [02:04:07] Speaker A: And then, you know, there it is, you know, from there. [02:04:10] Speaker C: Yeah, that was. I just recent. Just watched the Love's Last Resort, probably was it a few days before our last time we were together, and I was just like, he just nails this. And then your personality and just the way that, I mean, like, she comes in, she's like, why am a doctor? And then the woman has that issue, and you're like, you're a doctor. You. You know, it was just great. I loved it. And it was fun, you know, to see these different roles, but then you've got the. The waking nightmare. Waking nightmare, right. [02:04:45] Speaker A: Yeah. Waking nightmare. [02:04:46] Speaker C: I keep saying it wrong, that it's. [02:04:49] Speaker A: Supposed to confuse you. I think it's because it's about walking, you know? [02:04:52] Speaker C: Yeah. That movie was insane. [02:04:58] Speaker A: I love that movie. You. [02:05:01] Speaker C: You were just this. It twisted. Totally twisted in a way that I had no idea. [02:05:08] Speaker B: Yeah, I didn't see that coming. Man, that was. [02:05:11] Speaker C: And your character. Yeah, your character. [02:05:14] Speaker B: Yeah, that. That's a question I guess I wanted to ask is like, so what's the girl actually involved at all? Or was it just the parents? [02:05:23] Speaker A: Because, funny, it's like, I don't even know, actually. I mean, like, you know, the funny thing about it is that they actually changed the ending after. [02:05:33] Speaker B: Oh, did they? [02:05:35] Speaker A: And they. They added the scene. Like the scene where I stopped her from torturing that guy. That wasn't me, actually. They just had. They just had my wardrobe, you know, because they. They went back and they. They. They were like. They wanted to change it. They wanted to give it more of a twist, I think. Something like that. And so for me, I just kind of thought, you know, where I was playing, it was just that, like, that kind of dad where, like, you know, stuff's going on, but you just really don't want to get involved, you know, like, you know, or like, maybe you get involved, but you get involved to just sort of solve it or to sort of take care of something. But, you know, you don't want to, like, get too wound up with it kind of thing, you know, that's. That's kind of where I was coming from. [02:06:16] Speaker C: Well, I loved the scene that. One of my favorite scenes in that movie, I think, with you was when the mom and daughter were on the floor fighting. [02:06:25] Speaker B: Yeah. [02:06:27] Speaker C: And you're, like, eating your chips, shrug your shoulders. It was so perfect, like, so cool. [02:06:38] Speaker A: I love that. Thank you. [02:06:39] Speaker B: Yeah, that was a Good scene. [02:06:41] Speaker C: That was a very good scene. But yeah, that movie. [02:06:44] Speaker A: Well, that's me. And I just kept thinking about that scene, is that the chip thing was just something that just happened. It was like, you know, we're kind of trying to establish, you know, how to, you know, get it across, you know, that I'm not going to engage, whatever. And then it just made sense to just eat the chip, continue walking, you know, so it's like, it's sort of the magic of movie making you. It's kind of thing. You don't necessarily put in a script, you know, you don't know that that's going to be that magic moment, you know, so. [02:07:08] Speaker C: Yeah, right. [02:07:09] Speaker A: But. Yeah, but also watching Diane Franklin and. And Shelly Ranger, just like going to town on that kitchen floor, you know, just like, that was. That was really impressive. You know, watching that live was really impressive, I'm sure. [02:07:24] Speaker C: But yeah, that movie, definitely go watch it. It has lots of twists and turns and you. You'll be like, wait, what? [02:07:32] Speaker B: Yeah, definitely. That ending got me because it was like, you know, you're kind of like, cool, laid back, you know, fun dad, and you're thinking, well, this guy doesn't know anything that's going on. You know, it's just the mom and the daughter. And then at the end of the movie, it's like, holy, he's a part of it, too. My God. Yeah. [02:07:52] Speaker A: That was awesome. Yeah. I want a sequel. You know, I. I was hoping it gets, you know, got more momentum and we could get a sequel, you know, kind of find out what was. What was really going on. In a way, they. They did it. Well, it's. It's sort of like Schumacher, you know, it's like the same sort of trick as Schumacher, you know, just kind of convincing me for a little while that we're just tough. I mean, you know, that it's like, not even. Don't play the comedy, you know, don't even. He didn't even mention the word comedy. You know, it's like we were just tough, you know, that's Frog Brothers, you know, so it's like, in a way, you know, the directors, Brian and Steven, you know, they were. They in a way did the same thing. They had me, you know, playing this. This dad who was trying to stay out of it, you know, when in actuality they were going to have me very much involved. So. [02:08:33] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, it's that kind of dry humor to it, you know, in that scene that kind of gets you. It's like, well, I'm not. No part of this. I'm out of here. [02:08:43] Speaker C: Yes. So then I watched. We watched that movie one night. The next night we watched Mr. Manhattan. Then you got a completely different role. You're the lawyer and in that movie. That is such a love, you know, light hearted love. And I think we talked about it a little bit, but it's just so fun to see your personality and the talent you have coming out in all of these different roles. And I'm very excited to see what you got coming up. And I think everybody should just get you out there and get, get going with it. I know there was one podcast that I listened to. I can't remember the name of it. It's a bigger podcast. The one guy, he's an older guy, he's an actor. [02:09:29] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. Something about Jimmy. [02:09:31] Speaker C: Jimmy Starr. [02:09:32] Speaker A: Yeah. Jimmy Starr. Yeah. Yeah. [02:09:33] Speaker C: Yes, yes. [02:09:34] Speaker A: And he's like, just hook me up. [02:09:37] Speaker C: Yeah. They're like, we're gonna get you on the list. But you want to talk about old school Hollywood? He's like, you can't even flirt with the girls or the guys anymore and you can't say this or that. And you could hear the, you know, there was like this uncomfortable silence when he was talking about certain ways that they used to be able to talk to people. Right, right. It's like that's not the. Not okay. These days it was kind of funny, but he's total old school Hollywood. [02:10:05] Speaker A: Yeah. It's fun to joke about, about that difference, you know, but it's like, if you're really trying to bring it back, I don't know if I'm in favor of that, you know. [02:10:13] Speaker C: Right, right. But yeah, he was. That was a fun interview as well. [02:10:19] Speaker A: What I'm, you know, right now in this sort of stage of it all is like I'm. It's tricky because, you know, Hollywood's not as strong as it was maybe even just a few years ago, you know, that it's like, it's sort of diaspora of filmmaking, you know, out across the country, which is positive in a lot of other ways. But I was, I've been really trying to, you know, it's like, you know, all of these roles. First of all, I appreciate it. Thank you for the compliment about, you know, being able to do different characters. It's my favorite thing to do as an actor is to just be a totally different character, you know, and figure out what that's like and see how that affects how I say these lines. And, you know, because it's like the thing about acting oh no, I'm going to get emotional, talk about this. But the thing about acting is that there is a kind of a spiritual side to it, I think, where really channeling, channeling personalities, channeling people, channel, channeling characters. And so I just find that to be really fun, you know, to do different types of characters, you know, and. Yeah, and then have character like, you know, kind of like nutty, like the French waiter and then, you know, then have something that's very genuine. You know, there's some of the scenes I had with Shelley and Waking Nightmare, you know, very genuine father, you know, connection, a stuff and, and just trying to give each role its own do, you know, is my favorite thing, you know, and so I, I've been these roles, these different roles. It's, it's like I've, I've been really kind of fighting, clawing my way back from, you know, taking time doing theater in New York and, and having a family and, you know, different things that happen in life. Kind of clawing my way back to, to being like, hey guys, you know, remember that I'm here and remember I can, I can do a good job here. You know, like, I can really, I could really elevate a, a movie or a show. And I'm trying to get people to, to see that. So I appreciate you saying that because I want to do more work. I want to do. I want to be one of those actors like Michael Caine, you know, and like, you know, who's just doing all kinds of movies. [02:12:12] Speaker C: Well, and you kind of, you touched on theater and stuff a little bit. We haven't really touched on that. You have had such a diverse career. You not only film, tv, but you were on stage. You were an award winning playwright for. Remember this. Is there a particular role or performance in theater or even voice acting that holds a special place for you or something that really stuck with you? [02:12:34] Speaker A: Yeah, so I, I had a lot of fun doing theater in New York and, and around the country and stuff. And, and so many of those roles were just, just kind of out there and, you know, kind of lost forever now. But things that I felt, you know, really good at that there's, I would say theater wise, I did some shows when I was at Actress Theater of Louisville. I was in Company there and there were some roles there that I did that I really loved, I really dug. And, and also when I, when I was doing Lost Boys, I. At, in high school, I was doing Elephant Man. I was playing the Elephant man and it was, I got a lot of, I Got a lot of praise for that. It was really nice, you know, and because it wasn't Alan Frog, it was, you know, in the play the Elephant Man. You know, it's like there's no makeup or anything. It's just a physical. I gotta find a tape somewhere. And it was some nice work. Not just, not just me, but my fellow classmates and the guy who was our drama teacher. We really put a lot of heart into it, and it was a nice, really nice show. And so that's really memorable for me. [02:13:38] Speaker C: That's awesome. Yeah. I mean, you've had, like I said, such a diverse. You've done a lot of different things and you've done everything so well. Well, and then I remember. I don't think we've mentioned this, but I brought up that you went to school at Beverly Hills High, which you're going to school with a bunch of people who are wanting to have an acting career or have something, you know, in the celebrity type role. But I. The one thing I remember hearing you talk about so fondly was knowing how you knew that you had an audition. [02:14:15] Speaker A: Your. [02:14:15] Speaker C: Your mom's car, you even remember the model of it just being at the bottom of the hill. So you'd come out of school and see your mom's car at the bottom of the hill and you'd know that day you had an audition. And I mean, what fun memory. What a fun memory. And that she made it that special that she probably didn't even realize at the time that that would be such a special memory for you. [02:14:38] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. I don't. You know, my mom is a sharp in those ways, so it's possible she did, but I think it was just like trying to. And she was excited, you know, she was. She was excited, you know, and it's like, you know, Beverly at the time, it's changed a bit because they're using some of that space. But at the time you. You could come out, out of class and there was this long green. This lawn, this sort of rolling lawn all the way down to the street. And. And that was. Yeah, that was it. I was walking down the. I'd be walking down those stairs, see her car there, this blue crx, you know, I don't know if you can picture a crx. Like, it's like a little. It was like Honda's version of a Porsche, you know, and. And it just was super exciting. And. And that's when I. I mean, I can. I can picture her saying it, you know, about the body, you know, when I Got that. That audition. Being like, you have. She was so awesome. She was like, you have an audition for a feature film today. You know, holding the script in her hand. It was really special. Really special memories. [02:15:41] Speaker C: That's awesome. I love that. That just, like, brought tears to my eye listening to the nostalgia of that. [02:15:48] Speaker B: You know, I was doing some searching the other day ago, before we had the first interview, and I wanted to see your AT&T commercial, you know. [02:15:59] Speaker A: Yes. [02:16:00] Speaker B: And so I start to play it. I find it on YouTube, and I'm watching. I'm like, I remember that commercial. So that thing must have been pretty big too, huh? [02:16:11] Speaker A: Yeah, that commercial was. Was big. They played on the Emmys, I think, that year, and. And then they also made it into another commercial. It was, like, also part of a clip commercial. [02:16:24] Speaker B: I think I remember that one too. [02:16:26] Speaker A: Yeah. But, yeah, I love that commercial. [02:16:29] Speaker C: I do, too. It just brings back so many memories. I mean, picking up the phone, hanging it up, pick it, you know. [02:16:35] Speaker B: Well, and then seeing, you know, seeing your. You about to call that girl. I mean, I had that moment in time, too. You know, I went. I was about the same age, so it was kind of like seeing you do it and thinking, okay, maybe I can do this. [02:16:50] Speaker C: I can call her. [02:16:52] Speaker A: Cool. I'm glad that it hit you that way. Yeah. I mean, it was the kind of thing where, like, I, you know, doing commercials was always like, you got. Everybody wants to do commercials because they're so. It made so much money on a commercial, you know, and. And so. But I wasn't. I wasn't, you know, I wasn't that guy. Like, I was. That commercial I got. Because it's more acting, you know, it's like, I could be this character, you know, this. This guy, and. And in it. And I was in an improv group at the time called you Got to Be Kidding was our. Is our name and. Which was a lot of fun, really talented group of kids. And. And I had. I had done that scene in the improv of Calling Girl, and, you know, and everybody loved it. So when I was on, you know, I was like. I got. Went to the waiting room and they described it. I was like, oh, I got this, so. And they loved it from the beginning. I was like. To the point where I did it. And then they were just pairing other girls, you know, the girl, the dog, the sisters with me, you know, it's like they. Where it's like, I pretty much knew I had it pretty early on. It was really great feeling. [02:17:54] Speaker C: Well, and having the iconic Bratty little sister too, you know. Right. Yeah, well, and then after he found that commercial, he found the Pearl Vision commercial too. Yeah, yeah, that was. That one was great too. You know, show, you know, her getting all ready for prom and showing up. And then here's Jameson at the door. The prom date. [02:18:17] Speaker A: Yeah. Then it's like she. She's. She's like self conscious about having glasses, so they get her contacts, you know. [02:18:22] Speaker C: And then you have glasses on. [02:18:24] Speaker B: Yeah, I think the one that I found, they must have cut something out because it didn't seem like it was the complete commercial, you know? Interesting. [02:18:34] Speaker A: I might have it on my website. It might be on my website. [02:18:37] Speaker B: Oh, is it okay? [02:18:39] Speaker A: Yeah, like, definitely have to go to my website. There's like, just like a bunch of pictures of my. [02:18:46] Speaker B: Yeah, I think maybe it is a full one then, because. But I. It seems like in the original one, weren't you, like, trying on glasses too? Or was it just her character? Okay, maybe I'm misremering it. [02:19:01] Speaker A: I think the only shot of the. [02:19:03] Speaker C: Mandela. [02:19:04] Speaker B: Yeah, Mandela. Or the fact that I'm old, I can't remember. [02:19:10] Speaker A: But you're my age, so you're not old, you know. [02:19:13] Speaker C: That's right. [02:19:14] Speaker B: Yeah, we're. We're young chickens. [02:19:15] Speaker C: We all are. But I can remember younger and younger. [02:19:19] Speaker A: Yeah, no, I feel younger. I mean, I feel younger. I feel younger than I did 10 years ago, actually. I mean, because I was in the middle of having little kids then, you. [02:19:26] Speaker B: Know, so it's like, yeah, that'll do it. [02:19:29] Speaker A: Yeah, but. But I think, you know, on that commercial, I remember it being like it was my first real gig, that commercial, like Pearl Vision, I think. Yeah, I think it's my first professional gig. And I. I just didn't know. I was like, all they want me to do is just stand there like. You know, because in the. In the audition, I. I did various things, you know, and. But all they wanted me to do is just show up and smile, you know, and I was like, cool, you know, like, easy money. [02:19:57] Speaker C: I got this. I can smile. [02:20:00] Speaker A: Yeah. And then, you know, that commercial paid for everything. You know, that commercial set. It was like I was playing on the town's money. After that, you know, it's like, right. You know, I. Pictures and acting classes and everything. It's like, made it so that I wasn't like, hey, dad, you know, can I get some money for some pictures? [02:20:15] Speaker B: Yeah, it seems like commercials are kind of finding their way back to the big starts now, you know, like. Yeah, yeah, back in the early 90s and stuff. You didn't really see any of the, like, a listers doing commercials, but now you're, like, seeing Brad Pitt doing commercials and. Yeah, you know, so it was that. [02:20:37] Speaker A: Case with TV also. I mean, and smaller roles also. But a lot of the big actors are. Are coming into those roles. Those used to just be done by, you know, journeyman actors. [02:20:50] Speaker B: Is that. Is that just because kind of Hollywood is changing in general or. [02:20:54] Speaker A: I think it's a few things. I think it's. Number one, filming isn't the same way anymore where you, like. I think it used to be like, if you were on a sitcom, you had to just be on that show because it just. It took all that time to kind of put it together. It took the whole meeting to put it together. And then the next week you were doing another one. And, you know, and so it was. And so I don't think so you could kind of like, either couldn't be on other shows or they didn't want you on other shows. They contract you to just do that show. And so. So I think there's that piece of it that people can do. Like, you know, someone's on a hit show, they may be on three or four other shows. You know, I mean, like, Will Arnett, you know, is a good example. Like, he's on, you know. [02:21:35] Speaker B: Yeah, great. [02:21:37] Speaker A: I mean, you know, and so I think there's that. And then also the fact that there aren't as many roles, there aren't as many projects as there were back then, I think. And so the bigger stars, I mean, that's where the bread and butter is. And, you know, and I think also audiences, too. I think audiences want. They want to see the stars. [02:21:55] Speaker C: Well, and it seems like a lot of these streaming services are now creating their own movies and stuff like that, too. So you have a lot of people that are doing Netflix movies and, you know, Paramount or, you know, whatever. It seems like a lot of them are actually putting out their own movies instead of having to be in the movie theaters and stuff now, too. [02:22:18] Speaker A: Totally. [02:22:19] Speaker C: Which is sad because the movie theater is dying off. I mean, there's so many that after Covid closing and stuff like that, that was such a nostalgic thing of my past going to the movies and, you know. [02:22:30] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm hoping something shifts and, you know, movies start to become popular again. That's kind of my thought. [02:22:37] Speaker A: I think it could, you know, I mean, like. Like you're saying, like, commercials, talking about commercials, like, we're watching commercials again. You Know, it's like the. Even on streaming, you know, it's like that whole, you know, so some of the old models might be coming back. And, you know, I also saw this thing, like tiny cinema. Have you seen this thing? It's like a, like a little trailer that, that, you know, like someone brings it around and then, you know, plays a movie. It's just like a few seats in it, you know, kind of thing. And so I'm hoping that that kind of thing happens where, I mean, we, we. We do have to go out and do things, you know, we, you know, it's like people want to go out and do things. Even though so much. It's so great to watch a movie at home too, you know, so it's like. [02:23:15] Speaker C: It is. [02:23:15] Speaker A: That's what we're up against. You know, I like to do it, you know, but the ritual of going out and stuff and going to a movie is just really special. [02:23:23] Speaker B: I think that that's what kind of does seem like. Like the trend is changing a little bit, you know, like, you know, the last couple of years it's been like nobody wants to leave their house. But now, you know, it seems like people are starting to miss that nostalgia of going to the movie theater, seeing the movie posters and stuff. And, you know, I, I know I do, you know, and unfortunately for us, we work a lot, so, you know, usually we don't get to movie theaters too often, but. [02:23:52] Speaker A: Yeah. [02:23:52] Speaker C: Well, I even, you know, remember being a kid going into the video store and it was always the challenge to see who could get. Who could get their name put on the posters to be able to bring home, because you could buy them for $5. And if you were the first one, once they put them up for sale, you know, you could get those posters and you'd have those movie posters in your room and, you know, just that, you know, I just loved that. I just, I missed the. The video stores. [02:24:18] Speaker B: Yeah, the movie stores being good. [02:24:21] Speaker A: That was, that was another. That was another interesting era, like, cool era, where it was like all of a sudden you had access to all these movies. But yeah, you had to go out and, you know, get it and everything. And there was a whole other income stream for the industry too. [02:24:33] Speaker C: Oh, totally. I mean, I love being able to stream everything at home, but I think I just miss that nostalgia. Like on the weekends I used to take my kids, you know, to Mr. Movies and they'd have the previously viewed movies where you could buy two, get two free or something, and then we'd go home and have a movie marathon. [02:24:51] Speaker A: Yeah, totally. Totally. Yeah. Yeah. Like entertainment, you know, America's entertainment, you know, more than America. But it's like something we created here, you know, that genuine. [02:25:01] Speaker C: Yeah. Do you have anything else on the pipeline that you can share with us or. [02:25:06] Speaker A: So the thing. So the things I'm focusing on right now are the One man show and the. In Lost Locations. You know, my. [02:25:13] Speaker C: My Lost Locations is amazing. [02:25:16] Speaker B: Cool. [02:25:16] Speaker A: Thank you. And because also it's like we're going to maybe move into other territory, like, you know, trying to. Trying to get that. The Pogonip, the Grandpa's house, maybe, you know, the effort to get that rebuilt. And, you know, as we're approaching the 40th, you know, we may kind of COVID that stuff a little bit with the show. So that's. That's where like my kind of that energy is. I'm not, you know, there's a bunch of things where, you know, like the Frog Brothers show and there's a couple other things that I'm trying to develop and trying to pitch. Nothing worth talking about yet because it's not necessarily happening, but a bunch of things like that and auditioning and trying to get into a new horror franchise or some other cool movie kind of thing. [02:25:54] Speaker B: So didn't you have a movie coming out this year or something, so. [02:25:58] Speaker A: Not yet, no. I think the movie. The only. The movie I did last year came out already and so I haven't yet filmed something this year. No, nothing. Nothing's officially coming out yet, but working on it. [02:26:09] Speaker B: Yeah. [02:26:10] Speaker A: But look out for that one show. And. And also if, you know, Santa Cruz is going to be. Is becoming more of like a place where I'm going a bunch and I'm trying to do like a tour there, you know, for people when they come in town. But like on. On June 13, which is when we think the movie is going to be on the beach. The. They haven't announced it yet, I don't think, but I'm pretty sure based on when they normally do it, I'm going to be there and I'm going to, you know, meet people on the boardwalk and meet people at Atlantis Fantasy World and stuff. So, you know, that kind of thing. [02:26:39] Speaker C: Well, and you got to come back to Minnesota soon. [02:26:42] Speaker A: Yes, I want to come back to. [02:26:44] Speaker C: And we've got to make a trip out to California because I want to definitely go. I have never been. [02:26:48] Speaker B: I was just trying to look at the calendar to see when June 13th was because, you know, so it's June. [02:26:55] Speaker A: 13Th and then we we're going to do something later in the year, too. Either the week that the movie came out, you know, which is like around the end of July and. Or sometime in October for, like, Halloween kind of thing, gonna do another Santa Cruz thing. So if you miss the June 13th one, you know, or June 12th at the comic book store, you might be able to catch one later in the year. [02:27:17] Speaker B: Yeah, June 13th is on a Friday. So, I mean, you know, if we got somebody to do the daycares Wednesday, we could fly out on Thursday. [02:27:28] Speaker C: Go to Cali again. I've only been there once, but yeah. [02:27:32] Speaker B: That'S what we do at night. We clean commercial property. So it's really hard to get days off because we're pretty much there five days a week, you know. [02:27:43] Speaker A: Totally, totally. I can see that being the kind of thing where you just got to be there, do it. [02:27:47] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. But there's no. [02:27:50] Speaker B: We could probably make it happen, though. [02:27:52] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [02:27:54] Speaker C: Call the kids. [02:27:55] Speaker A: Yeah. And. And there'll be opportunities over the next couple years as we approach the 40th, you know, like, Santa Cruz hopefully will be trying to make that a little bit more of a gathering place. You know, Lost Boys fans. [02:28:07] Speaker B: I love, love Santa Cruz. [02:28:08] Speaker C: Yeah, I can't wait to see it. [02:28:10] Speaker A: Yeah, it's pretty cool to see. [02:28:11] Speaker C: It looks very. It. It doesn't look like it's changed all that much. [02:28:15] Speaker A: I mean, in certain ways it has, but there's a lot that's. That's very similar to how it was. Yeah. [02:28:21] Speaker C: Yeah, I love it. I can't wait to see it. All right. Do you have anything else you want to share? Or. Another thing is make sure we have you tell everybody where they can find you. [02:28:33] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, yeah. So I got a few places you can find me. My. My YouTube channel is Jameson611. This is what I kind of chose at the time, but, you know, so find me on YouTube. That's where my lot, the Lost Location show is being posted. But you can find. I usually, you know, sort of. I think I probably spend the most time on Instagram. So I'm just James Newlander on Instagram. I think I'm Jameson. I think on Twitter, I'm James Newlander1. I mean, not Twitter. TikTok. Jameson Newlander1. So basically YouTube, Instagram, TikTok. And then my website is JamesonNewlander.com and that's actually starting to be a little more. Have some more value as I'm doing stuff in Santa Cruz. I'm going to be posting on there and different types of things. And the one man show updates will be on there and stuff. So. So check that, check me out there. [02:29:25] Speaker C: And then you have merch shop as well. [02:29:29] Speaker A: Oh yeah, that's right. Yeah. My Shopify site, which I, I think is. [02:29:33] Speaker B: That's attached to your website too, right? [02:29:35] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah. [02:29:36] Speaker B: Okay. [02:29:37] Speaker A: So you can, you can get to it from there and then, you know, convention wise, I'll be in a few different conventions. My. The first one I have coming up is at the end of May in Tennessee. Smoky Mountain Terror Con. So I'll come on throughout the year. [02:29:51] Speaker B: Yeah, well maybe I'll have my mom come out there and meet you. [02:29:54] Speaker C: She's in Tennessee. [02:29:55] Speaker A: Tennessee. Cool. [02:29:56] Speaker B: Yeah, I won't be. Well, yeah, yeah, she could do it. Yeah, she's a fan too, so she. [02:30:04] Speaker A: Is she really nice. Oh yeah, the last place fan. She's the one who let you go to the movie. [02:30:09] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [02:30:10] Speaker A: Teenager. [02:30:12] Speaker C: Yeah. She actually called us right after, shortly after our first interview with you and I told her that who we interviewed and she's like, you're kidding. She was like so excited. It was very fun. [02:30:28] Speaker B: But yeah, we'll, we'll post all your socials in our show notes and stuff. [02:30:32] Speaker C: So definitely find you and everybody get out there and follow him and check out lost locations, check out some of the movies that he's done recently and in the past as well. [02:30:43] Speaker B: And good stuff and educational. [02:30:45] Speaker C: Very. [02:30:46] Speaker B: You gotta know your Lost Boys history. It's very important. [02:30:50] Speaker C: It is very important. [02:30:52] Speaker A: Yeah. Go get your Lost Boys history. [02:30:55] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. And buy some merch. [02:30:58] Speaker C: Definitely check out some words. [02:30:59] Speaker A: I got some good, I got some good merch. I got that, the airborne shirt. I recreated that and yeah, got a. [02:31:04] Speaker C: Couple signatures on there and autograph stuff. The coasters and. Yeah, yeah, trading cards. [02:31:11] Speaker A: Yeah, those trading cards. Yeah. I mean I'm loving those trading cards. That's fun. I might make one for Waking Nightmare actually. Even though it's not as big as the other ones. But I think just to round out my horror movies, you know, to have. [02:31:21] Speaker B: There you go. [02:31:21] Speaker C: Well, I think that movie if, if people, you know, I think that one could potentially be something that gains some momentum because it is crazy. [02:31:31] Speaker B: Yeah, it's good. [02:31:33] Speaker C: Yeah. But we'll make sure to like Jeremy said, include all the links and everything. And I know we have our Jeremy's Airborne shirt. Should be here hopefully this, this week. [02:31:43] Speaker B: Yeah, I was hoping it was here today because I was gonna wear it but still ain't here. It would be cool. [02:31:49] Speaker A: I gotta sell it. Beret as well. But I. It's hard. [02:31:51] Speaker B: Oh, that I would buy one of those. [02:31:54] Speaker C: He actually mentioned. He was like. Jeremy actually said that before we started recording the first time. He's like, should we go get some berets? [02:32:03] Speaker B: I was gonna go full Alan frog. [02:32:06] Speaker C: He was. [02:32:07] Speaker A: I love it. I would have dug it. [02:32:09] Speaker B: So I settled for this shirt today. [02:32:11] Speaker C: What, the duck? [02:32:14] Speaker A: Yeah. Oh, yeah, I remember that. That's the duck from the duck song. Is that. [02:32:19] Speaker B: I'm not sure. I just. Funny. [02:32:21] Speaker A: I don't know. There's a. There's a the duck song on. When my kids were little, the iPhone just came out, and. And there's this song that. By this duck. You know, like, the duck walked up to the lemonade stand, you know, and it's. It's just funny. Dumb little thing. [02:32:35] Speaker C: Anyway, but those fun songs, it's good. [02:32:38] Speaker A: I'm so glad I. I ran into you guys in the elevator, and then we became elevator friends, and it's just. Elevator buddy. [02:32:45] Speaker C: It's been so fun to get to know you and to see all these things that you've been doing. And, I mean, I have to say, you are just, you know, you always think of celebrities being, like, you know, totally untouchable. You can't communicate. You can't, you know, whatever, or having a chip on their shoulder. But you are such an amazing person. You have such great personality, and you're so welcoming, and, you know, we're so honored to have you do this with us. [02:33:16] Speaker B: And an amazing actor. [02:33:18] Speaker C: Totally. [02:33:19] Speaker B: Yeah. Thank you. [02:33:20] Speaker A: I'm the everyman actor, so. [02:33:22] Speaker B: Everyman actor. Yeah. [02:33:25] Speaker C: Well, hopefully we can make it out to something that you have going on soon, and hopefully we can try to figure out something, because I really want to do that. Ghost hunt sounds good. [02:33:35] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm up for all of it. And I'll try and loop Feldman in. You know, he'll be like, yeah, like last time. [02:33:43] Speaker C: Well, we'll bring some Amodium this time. [02:33:48] Speaker B: All right, Jameson. [02:33:50] Speaker C: Well, again, Jameson, thank you so much. This has been such a pleasure and so much fun. [02:33:55] Speaker B: Yeah. Thanks for being such a cool dude and being on our podcast. [02:34:01] Speaker A: Thanks. Thanks for being cool. All right. Awesome. [02:34:05] Speaker C: All right, thanks, Jameson. We'll talk soon. Bye. 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