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[00:04:29] Speaker B: Hey everyone, we have Kevin from where the weird ones are with us today.
[00:04:36] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:04:37] Speaker B: Hey Kevin, how are you?
[00:04:39] Speaker D: I am peachy. I'm running on 3 hours of sleep. I had to work this morning, and now I'm drinking some kombucha for I don't know why, but I decided to drink it. But other than that, I'm doing perfectly fine.
[00:04:57] Speaker B: My son makes that stuff, and the whole mother thing just kind of grosses me out.
When you see that in a jar, it looks like otherworldly.
[00:05:12] Speaker D: If you don't drink it fast enough, it can come back to life.
[00:05:19] Speaker B: Yeah, I've had it. It's very vinegary, yes, but I can't drink a lot of it. But it's not bad on an occasion.
Why don't you tell us about your podcast and tell us where to find you.
[00:05:35] Speaker D: Of course.
So it is called where the weird ones are.
I started it almost, I think it'll be two years in April.
It was really slow going at first, but it picked up probably around November of 2022, and it's been off the walls ever since. And it's been fun. I've been able to meet a lot of people like yourselves, and everybody's so welcoming and stuff. But it's a conversational based podcast based on guest experiences with the paranormal, which, I mean, I know cryptids and aliens kind of fall under the realm of paranormal, but I like to call the aliens encrypted stuff like supernatural. So I say paranormal supernatural experiences, and I dive into conspiracies here and there, and I like to try and depending on the guest, I try to pick their brains on conspiracies and see how they feel about some of them too. And I touch on a lot of mental health because when you have these kinds of experiences, a lot of people, they think they've gone crazy and they're like, nobody's going to believe me.
So the basis of the podcast is to let people know that they're not alone and if they want to tell their story publicly.
I have an unbiased ear just because I've experienced a lot of things in my life as well. So I know what it's like.
There's one story that I have that I feel like people are like, you're probably lying, but to me it's real.
[00:07:26] Speaker B: I really experience which one is that?
[00:07:30] Speaker D: I ran into mushroom people when I was ten.
[00:07:34] Speaker B: I was just telling Jeremy about that story because I binged your podcast a while ago. I think I'm a couple of weeks behind now because I started listening to the suspended sentence, trying to spread the love around.
So I binged all the way up, man.
I think it was just a couple of weeks ago I stopped listening. Not stopped listening, but started listening to one of the other ones.
So I'll go back and catch up again once I get done with theirs. But that story is crazy. Do you want to tell us a little bit about it?
[00:08:13] Speaker D: Yeah. So when I was little, I used to wear glasses for the reason that people wear glasses is because you need them to see. And I was about ten, and my sister and I used to pretend that we would go out in the woods and pretend we were hunting monsters of some kind or aliens. And we had asked my mom if we could go out because we were supposed to go somewhere and I can't remember where we were going. But anyway, she granted us permission to go outside. She was like, don't be outside too long, we got to get going soon. So there was a light dusting snow outside, so it was just a very thin layer of snow over the ground. And we were walking around in the woods pretending like making up a story as we're walking around of some kind and we're walking and I just feel, not feel, but my eyes. It was almost like I walked into blue plastic of some kind. This blue tint came over my eyes. And then all of a sudden all the snow was gone. And right in front of me, probably about somewhere between ten to 20ft, was a little village of mushroom people. And they're stoking the fire in the center of this little village. And now they're like three inches tall.
They look like if you didn't take two glances at it and you just happened to walk by and catch it out of the corner. You probably would have thought it was a patch of mushrooms. You know what I mean?
They didn't look like people like toad does, from just. They were just mushrooms, and they were just moving around like they were people. And there was little huts made of bigger mushrooms, and there was mushroom huts going up, little ladder looking things going up the side of the trees. And I was just like, what am I looking at? And I feel this tap on the back of my head. Now, it didn't hurt it, and it wasn't, like, super forceful, but for whatever reason, my glasses just fell off my head, and I feel something on my shoulder. So I turned my head to look at my left shoulder, and there's a mushroom on my shoulder. And telepathically, he or she says, you don't need those. And I'm like, my glasses? And it goes, yes.
And then right after it said yes, all of a sudden it was like a snap of the finger. The mushroom was gone. And my sister was standing there. She's like, are you all right? And I was like, I just lost my glasses.
She, like, leaps into action to try and help me find these glasses, and she ends up stepping on them and crushes them. And then immediately, I went into panic mode. I forgot all about the experience, and I rushed home to tell my mother about my broken glasses, and she's like, well, you have an appointment in a couple of weeks. I'm not going to buy you a new pair because if you need a new prescription, I'm just going to have to buy another pair anyway. So I had to suffer for a while with no glasses. And then we went to the doctors for the eye test, and my doctor is overlooking the chart, and he just kind of. You know how they have those? They used to, anyway. I haven't seen them in the past couple of years since I've gone, but I don't go to the doctors very often anyway. But the dual looking things on the wheels that they come in and sit on, and he just pushes away from the little desk that was in there and swivels at the same time. He's like, you don't need glasses. I was like, what? He's like, yeah, your vision is 2020. Your vision is fine. It's perfect. I was like, what? He's like, yeah.
He's like, I don't know, maybe wearing the glasses just kind of like, strengthen or something, but he's like, it's kind of weird. And my mom was like, oh, fucking.
[00:12:41] Speaker B: So happy that she didn't have to buy her glasses anymore.
During that two week period without glasses, were you struggling to see at all?
[00:12:57] Speaker D: Yeah, I was getting, like, constant migraines at first, but not the whole time. So one of the reasons why we even went to get me glasses to begin with is because I was getting these severe migraines almost constantly.
[00:13:12] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:13:14] Speaker D: And especially after reading or watching tv, I would end up just crying because my head hurt so bad and I had to go lay down in a dark room and stuff. So that's what prompted going to get my eyes checked to begin with.
[00:13:32] Speaker B: Okay.
Yeah, I love that story. I've heard you tell it a few times on your podcast. And like I said, I was actually telling Jeremy about it just the other day. I was like, oh, my gosh, he's got this crazy story of this little mushroom village that reminds me of the Smurfs.
I got that, too. Everything you describe, I just kept picturing, yeah, the Smurfs, how they have their little mushroom houses and the little ladders going up everywhere.
[00:14:04] Speaker A: Kind of wanted to play their theme.
[00:14:06] Speaker B: Song, but instead of having the little Smurf guys, little blue guys, you had little mushroom guys, which is crazy. But, like, the talking about going through the blue film, it's almost like you crossed over a veil or something. Or crossed through the veil of their world.
[00:14:24] Speaker D: Yeah, I consider that part, like, going through the portal, I guess, like the door or whatever.
And I don't know how else to describe that thing other than being like, you know, how people set up the ceram wrap across the doorway?
Face, person knew it. That's the only analogy I can come up with. But I wasn't walking. I didn't feel like anything on my face. It was just like the tint over my eyes.
[00:14:57] Speaker B: Right? Yeah. I love that story. That's why I was curious on which one that. I mean, I can see how it'd be something hard for people to swallow, but it's something that you experienced, and obviously, you didn't have to wear glasses afterwards. So there's something.
So where can we find you on your socials?
[00:15:20] Speaker D: So I'm on Facebook, Instagram, both as where the weird ones are, but Instagram is where underscore the weird ones are. When I was making the Instagram, somebody had already taken where the weird ones are. I was like, what the.
Because when I was trying to decide the name of the podcast, I typed it into Google to see if there's any other podcast named it. And I went across a couple names.
I think the original one was, I was going to do where the weird things are, but there's name that. And then I came up with other names, and then I went revisited where the wild things are.
The book.
[00:16:09] Speaker B: Yeah. And I have a hard time when I type your name, like, when we're in those chat groups and stuff. I think I've actually done that. Amanda, I think, called me out on that one day. She's like, are you talking about where the weird things are? And I must have typed where the wild things are? And I'm like, yeah. I say it in my brain all the.
[00:16:30] Speaker D: Wanted. I really like the play on that.
And I tried the weird things first, and there's podcast on that. And then I was just like, I think I did, like, two or three other names, and they were all taken as podcasts. And then I finally was like, well, let's try where the weird ones are, and typed that in. And there was no name for that as a podcast. That's the one. That's it. That's what I'm going with.
But Instagram, somebody just decided to pull that. So I put the underscore in after the where. But I also have a website, which is where the weird ones are, podcast.com.
And people can reach out to me through that and stuff like that, too. And there's a chat room on my website, but you got to become a Patreon member to get access to that bonus content. Yeah.
And what else? Oh, I'm on TikTok as Kevin. This is. And as far as socials, I think that's it. I don't have Twitter because I never understood Twitter from even before.
[00:17:52] Speaker B: I handle Instagram. Jeremy does all the Twitter stuff. I don't understand.
[00:17:57] Speaker A: Anybody understands Twitter.
[00:17:58] Speaker B: I don't understand Twitter at all.
[00:18:01] Speaker D: I've been thinking about getting on it now because you can reach other. There's people that are only on Twitter. You know what they're not. They don't even or whatever, because I use Instagram mostly. Like, I'm most active.
[00:18:15] Speaker B: So, yeah, we started on just Facebook, and I just could not get any traction going on Facebook at all. And then I ended up encountering Amanda from one nothing in a Facebook podcast group. And she had talked to me about doing a trailer trade and stuff. And I'm like, yeah, I'm down. And so we started chatting, and then she's like, girl, you got to get on Instagram. And I'm like, I just have never done Instagram. I had an Instagram, but I never used it. So I went out there, created an Instagram, and that's how I found, like, got into this great little community that we're in. And when all of the traction I would get from Facebook was all, like, negativity and it was everybody, all the other podcasters were out for themselves and they didn't want to help. It was like, it was all about their growth and the group that we have, we all grow together. We promote each other.
I love it. I love doing it. And we're working on this little story collab right now that I am so excited about. I can't wait for that to all come together.
[00:19:31] Speaker D: Me, too.
[00:19:32] Speaker B: And you get to finish it up here shortly. Kevin's the last one excited. Yes.
[00:19:39] Speaker D: I get flex the writer muscles.
[00:19:42] Speaker B: You do.
And I think it was perfect that it ended that way because you just recently created your own comic book, too.
[00:19:50] Speaker D: Yes.
It's not done yet. It's in illustration right now.
[00:19:58] Speaker B: Yeah.
I was thinking about maybe reaching out to your illustrator girl. I can't remember what her name is right now. She's been on your podcast a few times.
[00:20:10] Speaker D: Yeah, her name's Emily. She goes by the art.
[00:20:14] Speaker B: That's right. That's right. Once it all comes together, I thought it might be kind of fun to actually have a book created for each of us that contributed to it. But I haven't fully gone figured out how I want to go about it yet, so I might be reaching out to her.
Well, anyway, should we get to the fun little get to know you questions that we have?
[00:20:42] Speaker A: I think so, yeah. I think we should start with the hardest questions first, don't you?
[00:20:47] Speaker B: The hardest ones?
[00:20:47] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:20:48] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:20:49] Speaker A: All right. So, Kevin, what's your go to dance move when nobody is watching? And can you describe it?
[00:20:58] Speaker D: The sprinkler.
[00:21:00] Speaker B: The sprinkler. I love it.
[00:21:03] Speaker D: And behind your head. And you stick the other arm straight out and you just kind of, like, act like a sprinkler. You bring your shoot.
[00:21:11] Speaker A: I like it.
[00:21:12] Speaker B: I do, too.
All right, so if you were a superhero, what would your superpower be? And what would your superhero name be?
[00:21:24] Speaker D: Oh, my goodness.
[00:21:27] Speaker A: Told you they were tough.
[00:21:30] Speaker D: Invisibility.
[00:21:31] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:21:32] Speaker D: And my hero name would be Kevin.
[00:21:37] Speaker B: Love it.
[00:21:38] Speaker D: Just some random guy named Kevin.
[00:21:40] Speaker A: Just some random guy named Kevin. All right.
[00:21:44] Speaker D: He's going to say you can't see him. And he stops people from, I don't know, doing crime, I guess.
[00:21:50] Speaker B: There you go.
[00:21:52] Speaker A: If your life had a theme song that played every time you entered a room, what would it be?
[00:22:04] Speaker B: Shoot, man, I'm just glad somebody else was having to answer these questions for once, because Jeremy's been hitting me with them lately.
[00:22:14] Speaker D: I guess.
Alpha and Omega by king 810.
[00:22:20] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:22:21] Speaker B: All right, let's see.
I'm up.
If you could have any fictional character as your sidekick for a day, who would it be? And why.
[00:22:36] Speaker D: Batman?
Because he could probably teach me all of his tech skills.
[00:22:42] Speaker B: Tech skills are awesome.
Jeremy and I used to be techies. Well, we're still techies, but we used to actually work in the long, long time ago.
[00:22:54] Speaker D: The podcast has been like a learning was.
[00:22:58] Speaker B: I'm.
[00:22:59] Speaker D: I was never good at any computer stuff.
[00:23:02] Speaker B: Yeah, you definitely get challenged when you go into the whole podcasting thing. And the more you add, there's some days where we were both in the it field for many years, and there's days that we look at each other and like, well, now what?
[00:23:16] Speaker A: We struggle every day, especially as video and audio.
[00:23:21] Speaker B: Yeah, that's been. Because we edit ours, and that's been a big challenge with. Well, we bought these osbot. They're AI cameras that follow you and stuff. And Jeremy's isn't working on his Mac. It's cutting out his audio. And mine was working. And then the last video we tried to do, my audio was off. And it's been like, a know. We're like, we just need to spend a little bit more money and get better cameras.
[00:23:50] Speaker A: Simplify.
All right, so the next one. If aliens visited Earth and you were the first person they encountered, how would you explain the concept of pizza to them?
[00:24:08] Speaker D: Shoot, I would just tell them that it's a salad. I don't know.
It's warm and inviting is how I would describe it.
Bite into it.
[00:24:26] Speaker B: I like that. It is kind of a salad. It's a conglomeration of a bunch of different goodness.
[00:24:31] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:24:34] Speaker B: If you had to survive a zombie apocalypse with only three items from your kitchen, what would they be?
[00:24:42] Speaker A: This might be the toughest one.
[00:24:45] Speaker D: Rolling pin, the kitchen knife. Probably the food condenser, just, like, the base of it.
[00:24:56] Speaker A: There you go.
[00:24:58] Speaker B: That was pretty good.
[00:25:00] Speaker A: All right, next one. What's the weirdest food combination you enjoy that others might find strange?
[00:25:07] Speaker D: Mustard on a plain bagel. I mean, an onion bagel in an egg.
[00:25:11] Speaker A: I'll give you that one. Yeah.
[00:25:13] Speaker B: Jeremy freaked out on me the other day. Not freaked out, but we had ordered Instacart delivery, and I had them do just a random pick of donuts from the bakery. And one of the donuts was maple with bacon on top.
[00:25:28] Speaker A: Raw bacon.
[00:25:29] Speaker B: It wasn't raw. It was cooked. It was just cold.
And he was just looking at me like I was crazy that I was eating it. I'm like, it's really good. And he's like, no, try it. He would not try it. He was freaking out on me. He's like, that's cold bacon. I'm like, just like, bacon bits kind of.
[00:25:55] Speaker A: Yeah, but cold.
[00:25:57] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:25:57] Speaker D: I can't eat cold bacon.
[00:25:59] Speaker A: It's a texture.
[00:26:01] Speaker B: Not even in a salad.
[00:26:03] Speaker D: No.
[00:26:05] Speaker B: Well, he tells me I eat weird things all the time.
He won't do sushi. He won't do any of that stuff. He's a burger guy.
[00:26:15] Speaker D: Burgers that are good.
[00:26:16] Speaker B: Oh, yes. If he could eat them every day, he would.
Let's see, what's the next one? If you were a wizard, what spell would you cast on a daily basis just for fun, we're going Harry Potter on you.
[00:26:32] Speaker D: Oh, my goodness.
Zero gravity for the entire world is what I would do.
[00:26:37] Speaker B: Oh, that would be fun. That would be a good one.
[00:26:41] Speaker D: Or something like that. Just randomly, everybody's like, floating, like, holy shit.
[00:26:44] Speaker B: What the hell is happening?
I like that. That's a great answer.
[00:26:49] Speaker A: All right, so the next one, which is a weird one, if you had to choose between fighting one horse sized duck or 100 duck sized horses, which one would you pick?
[00:27:03] Speaker B: I liked this one.
[00:27:04] Speaker A: I did not.
[00:27:08] Speaker D: I would pick the duck sized horses.
[00:27:12] Speaker A: Okay?
[00:27:13] Speaker B: That's what I picked, too. I'm like, I could step on them. They'd be smaller. It'd be easier to defeat.
[00:27:20] Speaker D: Because duck sized ducks can still peck and bite and stuff in a duck sized horse, what is that going to do?
[00:27:29] Speaker A: Yeah, pretty safe there.
[00:27:31] Speaker B: And if you have a horse sized duck, that's a big ass beak and.
[00:27:36] Speaker D: Wings coming at you, probably swallow you. It grabs you right by the head of the beak and just tosses you up, and then you're right down the hatch, down the.
[00:27:51] Speaker B: I love. I liked that one. Jeremy kind of looked at me funny when I found that one. I'm like, no, I kind of like that one.
[00:27:57] Speaker A: All right, now we're going to get into the real questions, the real good, the hot topics.
[00:28:04] Speaker B: We are going to start off with going into the conspiracy theory stuff.
Okay, so how did you become interested in conspiracy theories and what motivated you to explore and discuss them on your podcast?
[00:28:21] Speaker D: All right, so it all started in a little town called Sanford, Maine. And I was about 13 years old in 7th grade, and the year was 2001. And I watched on tv the World Trade center plummet to the earth. And I remember seeing this one segment back then. This woman saying second plane had hit building two, and yet building two had not yet been hit. And then probably about ten minutes after she said it, then the building had been struck. So I started questioning the media first back then, but I didn't really pay attention to it until 2020. And then I started diving down into these conspiracy theories. I mean, the thing that won't go away from 2020, that kind of opened my eyes to a lot of things.
Not that it's not a real thing. I just think characters at play that cause this thing to happen.
And then the more I look into things, the more I realize some things just don't add up.
And I started listening to podcasts and the evidences of things that they were highlighting and stuff. I was like, yeah, you got a point. You got a point. And then when they started coming true in 2021 and 2022, certain things like Hollywood, like Hollywood's weird as hell, all the people there, and there's a lot of symbolism for a lot of things, too, and I don't recall a lot of them. But the one eye thing and stuff like that, it's interesting, not that I'm a flat earther, but that one conspiracy I find the most intriguing, just because there's people that are, like, 100% flat earth and then there's people 100% globe. But I know that we never landed on the moon.
[00:31:06] Speaker A: Well, that's fantastic, because that's actually what this episode is really about.
We're going deep on the flat earth thing here.
[00:31:15] Speaker B: Yeah. Jeremy, I brought it up to him from listening to your podcast, and I was like, you should go down the rabbit hole of the flat earth. And he's been putting stuff together for a few months now. And I was just like, oh, they were talking about this as being a theory, or they were talking about that as being a theory. And then he's like, this is infuriating because the flat earthers do not give any. They just say, this is why, or this is what it is, and they don't give explanation.
[00:31:53] Speaker A: They don't back it up.
[00:31:54] Speaker B: And then I've been listening to him listen to these scientists going against the flat earthers and how heated these discussions get. And I'm like, somebody's going to kill somebody.
They get heated and they start name calling. And it was quite hilarious listening to him listen to a lot of this stuff.
But I knew you had the interest because that's one question that you ask most of your guests. Do you believe in the flat earth, or do you believe the earth is flat around so we kind of wanted to do a little bit of put a little sprinkle of everything from here you do, the conspiracies and the paranormal and all that stuff. So we wanted to kind of do a little sprinkle of everything for you.
[00:32:44] Speaker D: Yeah. All the fringe topics.
[00:32:46] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:32:48] Speaker A: All right, so the next question for you, from a psychological perspective, why do you think people are drawn to and believe in conspiracy theories?
[00:32:58] Speaker D: I feel like because a lot of people have a hard time dealing with that. This is all there is, and it causes them to look into things and they find things od and weird.
I think the reality of working and going home every day, and that's it.
It causes people to question the things around them and why things are the way they are.
[00:33:31] Speaker A: Right.
[00:33:31] Speaker B: Well, and then you've got the big. Basically, it was like the world rebooted. Was it 2012 with the whole Mandela effect and stuff?
I can't remember what year it was, but they were saying something happened. And I think it was 2012, I believe, and how everything just kind of what we knew changed.
[00:33:53] Speaker D: Yeah. They say we all died collectively in 2012, and ever since then, we've been computer generated.
[00:34:03] Speaker B: That's so interesting.
[00:34:04] Speaker A: We live in the matrix.
[00:34:06] Speaker B: We live in the matrix.
So in your opinion, have certain conspiracy theories had a significant impact on historical events or public perception? The JFK, that's a big one.
[00:34:21] Speaker D: Fascination, I think, is really, I mean, they just released CIA document or FBI documents on the situation, and it kind of alludes to the CIA had an issue with JFK and, like, the Kennedy family, really. I mean, with the, they're all dropping.
[00:34:46] Speaker B: Like, know, I was just listening to somebody's podcast on that, and I couldn't believe all of the family members that have just, I didn't even know about some of them. I was like, wow. And then their daughter that they did that lobotomy on and then just left her in that psych ward. That's crazy.
[00:35:09] Speaker D: And I feel like RFK now, I have this weird feeling that something's going to happen to him, especially if he becomes the democratic nominee, because even you can be left or right, it really doesn't matter.
Your political views, it's like the elitist or the 13 families or Illuminati or the Freemasons, whatever you want to call them, they're going to pick whoever they want, no matter who you're voting for.
[00:35:48] Speaker B: Oh, definitely.
[00:35:50] Speaker D: Yeah. So if RFK gets the popularity vote and stuff, Joe Biden's already is a puppet. He's not even himself anymore.
You know, if you know the number be. I think something will happen to him on a pretty significant scale.
[00:36:13] Speaker B: Definitely. Do you ever hear about that Kelly Perry thing that happened on stage where she.
Katy Perry. Yeah.
[00:36:22] Speaker D: Or when she's like, oh, master.
[00:36:25] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:36:25] Speaker D: I don't feel. Yeah.
[00:36:27] Speaker B: What do you think about that?
[00:36:30] Speaker D: Do you know who.
What the heck is her name? She was a beauty pageant queen.
[00:36:38] Speaker B: Oh, my God. Jeanbenet.
[00:36:39] Speaker D: Her last name. Jeanbenet.
[00:36:42] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:36:43] Speaker D: So there's a theory out there that she is Katy Perry. So there's the picture that's of her everywhere. It kind of looks like Lane Maxwell is sitting right behind her. And then shortly after that, she goes missing. There's no body anywhere or anything like that, and they can't find then, you know, Katy Perry kind of would be the age that she would be in that.
[00:37:11] Speaker B: In that conspiracy theory. So in John Bennett Ramsey's story, or from what I've heard of the story anyway, or the case, her father found her body in the basement and he brought it.
[00:37:25] Speaker D: No.
[00:37:26] Speaker B: Was that incorrect?
[00:37:27] Speaker D: I'm pretty sure they just found blood in the basement.
[00:37:33] Speaker B: Okay. Because the podcast that I've listened to on it, they said that they brought her up, and then they DNA tested her underwear, and then they found that she was killed by, what is it, a garage, that what they spin or turn when they're strangling someone. But maybe the podcasts that I've listened to haven't been correct either. Yeah, I'll have to dig into that a little bit.
I haven't done a story on her yet.
[00:38:01] Speaker D: From what I knew, that they never found her body.
[00:38:08] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:38:11] Speaker D: The theory was that Epstein and Maxwell raised her to be Katy Perry. Either way, it's kind of far fetched anyway, even if they didn't find the body.
[00:38:29] Speaker B: Yeah, I have heard of the theory of her being. I've heard that the death was faked and that Katy Perry was actually her. I have heard that conspiracy before.
But then I heard one of her blinking out during that concert or whatever, and I haven't seen the footage on that. I haven't watched the video on it, but I'm like, that's really weird.
Was it a big stage act, or was it something that actually happened?
[00:38:58] Speaker D: Yeah.
So they were saying that she was a robot because of the eye thing, right? And that she might be AI generated, and she's like, all this stuff and the master thing.
It's the going theory that all these people who find major success, not all of them, but a good majority of them, had sold their soul to the devil, essentially. And that's why they get these amazing things. But the devil is not creative. That's why he can't create any blessings. He can only grant opportunities.
And then once you get the opportunities, you yourself have to capitalize on them. First of all, where the hell was I going with this?
Eventually, you have to pay with your soul, and then there's things that you have to do in order to stay relevant and stuff like that, and then you just kind of lose yourself. And that's what I think happened to Katy Perry. She was kind of like she was having a meltdown, and I think she was honestly on stage publicly praying to her God.
[00:40:25] Speaker B: When you talk about selling your soul and stuff, it makes me think of the show supernatural with going to the crossroads and burying the box or whatever, and then making your wish. With making your deal with the devil. Yeah, with the demons or whatever. And then what is it? Ten years later, the hounds of hell come and take you?
That would be freaky.
[00:40:52] Speaker D: I love that show too.
[00:40:54] Speaker B: I loved that show.
[00:40:57] Speaker D: But, yeah, no, right here it says that Jeanbene Ramsay was found.
[00:41:03] Speaker B: Oh, did you find it okay?
Yeah, I thought she was in, because from what I remember reading and hearing is her dad. And he made his friend come with, and they're like, oh, maybe we should check the basement. And then all of a sudden, he brings her up and then set her on the floor, and they're like, whoa. First off, the whole crime scene was trampled on as it was because there were so many people in and out of the house. But they thought it was strange that he asked his friend to go down, and I think he asked his friend to look in the room that they found her. And then he swooped in and grabbed her and carried her upstairs. And then the whole DNA testing of her underwear ended up leading to somebody that actually worked at the manufacturing plant where the underwear was made. So that person's DNA was on the underwear, so that lead went away.
So that's what I thought I remembered hearing. But sure, there's all sorts of different spins on it.
Nothing's ever been solved.
[00:42:16] Speaker D: Yeah, now that I think of it, I think the theory was that it was a different. Like, her body was faked or something.
[00:42:26] Speaker B: That could be. I could see, know, spinning that too. But who knows? I mean, you just don't know. You have to believe what you're told.
[00:42:35] Speaker D: You're not wrong. You're not wrong.
[00:42:39] Speaker B: All right, Jeremy, what's the next question?
[00:42:42] Speaker A: How did you first become interested in the flat earth theory? And what led you to explore and discuss it on your podcast.
[00:42:49] Speaker D: So, back in 2020, I heard this story of Admiral bird during World War II, or it was shortly after World War II, one or the other. And he was exploring Antarctica. So he had this ship and this huge crew out in Antarctica, and him and another pilot went. Took a plane off to go up over the ice wall and stuff.
And in his diary, he describes being intercepted by these aircraft that came out of the water in the Antarctic Ocean.
So they basically intercepted their plane and brought him to. To this place that was like, it was green grass and it was warm, but it was surrounded by all this ice and snow.
And maybe they didn't bring him there, but they were speaking to him through the comms of the ship, and they had nazi symbols on their spaceships. And he basically described them as spaceships, not like airplanes or anything. They were some kind of aircraft that didn't look of human technology, according to him. And they had nazi symbolism on their ships, and they told him that he needed to turn around and that they won't fire on him on them. And they outnumbered him. And when they were flying over the ice wall, they saw the woolly mammoths, and they saw this area that was green grass, and they saw more land on the other side that continued on.
So that's one of the based theories of the flat Earth and what has caused many people to go down the rabbit hole and to test their theories.
But Admiral Byrd's son.
There's this weird discrepancy on the journal, because this was all written in Admiral Byrd's journal, and it kind of looks like all that stuff, that part that talks about the weird stuff is in a different handwriting. And his son has been accused of faking the story and stuff. But you never know. He could have been writing it in this duress of some kind after experiencing this. And what better way to control a population, the vibration, than to lie about how much of the world there actually is, right?
I like to listen to people's theories and stuff, not that I actually believe that the earth is actually flat.
I just find the topic so interesting.
If that really happened, that's weird. And you see all these videos, too, of people out in Antarctica, and these weird things happen when they get to the wall.
There was this one video of this ship out there, and it was more like of a personalized ship, like a small fishing ship, kind of, okay, and they're approaching the ice wall, and then all of a sudden these waves just start. Fucking start coming. And it almost looked like there was some kind of seabons. You couldn't see anything, but it looked like this huge fish or something was like forcing, coming up towards the brink of the water, but not coming out of the water and forcing this boat away from the wall. And if you visit Antarctica, you have to stay on base. You're not allowed to leave the base or else you'll run into soldiers and stuff that will basically escort you back. So that's another weird thing. To visit Antarctica. You can't go anywhere.
[00:47:21] Speaker A: Well, don't you basically have to be a scientist in order to visit?
[00:47:29] Speaker D: Like, you have to get all these credentials to go out there, you have to get permission and all that stuff from, I don't know what government or anything it might be un, maybe that you need to.
[00:47:44] Speaker A: I think it is.
[00:47:45] Speaker D: Yeah. So that is oddly peculiar. But, yeah, that's pretty much the basis is the admiral bird experience. It had led me to that. And then I researched the moon landing. I've watched the video, like 100 times, which is od to me about a lot of things about it. And it's weird that we haven't gone back and that we can't seem to how to figure out how to go back, especially with the way technology is now.
[00:48:18] Speaker A: Yeah, kind of weird it is.
[00:48:22] Speaker B: How do flat Earth supporters address scientific evidence supporting a spherical Earth? And what arguments do they commonly present to challenge the mainstream science?
[00:48:36] Speaker D: Deep cameras that supposedly can see thousands of miles. And if you go out into the ocean and you're filming from land, because you know how supposedly, if there's a curvature, that's why you can't see anything out further. But honestly, our human eye can only see so far right to begin, which you would never be able to see any kind of curvature. But they also say that the scientists or whatever, or really anybody that believes in the spherical globe, when you see a ship out into the ocean, how come you see ocean but you see the top of the ship? You can't see the whole thing. But the flat Earthers will be like, well, you can only see the top of it because of miraging from sunglare, stuff like that. But they use these cameras that can see forever away. And they were out on a boat with one camera and on land with another, and they were measuring, and it didn't seem to have a curve from where there is supposed to be a curve.
And then the stars. The stars is another thing. How come we see the same stars in almost the same positions every night?
The north star is always in the same spot. How come if we're a sphere hurling through Earth at the galaxy at thousands of miles. How come the same star, the north star, is in the same exact spot every single night?
[00:50:34] Speaker A: That is true. I've never thought of that.
[00:50:35] Speaker B: I've never thought about the North Star. I guess I didn't realize it was in the same spot. But the constellations constantly move. They move throughout the seasons. But I never realized the North Star was always in the stationary because they.
[00:50:52] Speaker D: Used the stars to navigate back in the day.
[00:50:54] Speaker A: That is interesting, interesting stuff.
[00:50:57] Speaker D: And then they say that the clouds give it away, too.
If we're a gas ball, how come the bottom of the clouds are flat and then the tops of them are big and fluffy?
[00:51:08] Speaker B: I'm going to have to look the clouds closer now.
I guess I never thought of that or noticed that either. I just noticed the fun little shapes in them.
[00:51:19] Speaker D: Yeah. I used to look at the shapes all the time when I was a kid.
[00:51:23] Speaker B: I love doing that. It's like all of a sudden you'll see something. You're like, oh, it looks like this.
[00:51:29] Speaker D: Yeah. But I also think that you can't really tell that the bottoms of them are flat from the bottom. I think they talk more. Talk about being, like, in the sky with them.
[00:51:39] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:51:41] Speaker D: The bottom ones are more flat on the bottom, and then they're just like this big combustion of bubbles on top. Okay, there's another one.
You know how when the sun shines through glass, it gives this prism effect?
Yeah. And you see that naturally outside sometimes.
[00:52:08] Speaker A: Right.
[00:52:08] Speaker D: So the theory is that we're in a glass jar sometimes. That's another one.
[00:52:15] Speaker A: It's interesting, but, yeah, I can see it either way because that would be more like water droplets in the air, which if you ever shine light through water, you kind of get that prism effect, too.
[00:52:28] Speaker D: Yeah. There's another one that gravity doesn't exist.
It's the buoyancy in us because we're in water.
I don't know about that one at all.
I don't know. That's kind of far.
[00:52:47] Speaker B: Yeah.
I would think we would realize if we were in water, especially with all the electronics that people have nowadays.
[00:52:55] Speaker A: Yeah. It baffles me that there's so many different theories out there.
Some people have some really vivid imaginations when it comes to this flat earth theory.
[00:53:07] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:53:07] Speaker A: And I kind of came up with my own version of my flat Earth.
[00:53:14] Speaker B: We'll be doing separate from your interview, Jeremy's going to be doing a story on the flat earth and stuff, and he went into it, and that'll be on. I don't know. Is it this episode or another episode? I'm not sure. But he goes into his own. He kind of plays fun with it. And then the other night, he asked me to.
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[00:54:07] Speaker B: Podcast platform, do some stuff to play some fun with it, too. And so I went into, I kind of went with, like, water based animals and then land based animals.
[00:54:28] Speaker A: Like Nessie's actually a secret submarine.
[00:54:34] Speaker B: We kind of had some fun with it. So he goes into the whole theories and what they say and what they believe, and then he goes into his own play of it. So we're doing kind of like our own fictional supernatural, which is going to be fun. So you'll have to make sure to listen to that.
[00:54:56] Speaker A: Very comedic version of Flat Earth.
[00:55:01] Speaker B: So, yeah, and I have, like, what did I have? Yeti as the Antarctic.
Basically. He was like the police of the Antarctic or something. He patrols the Antarctic and keeps everybody away. Yeah, we had some fun with it.
[00:55:20] Speaker A: So what sparked your interest in the paranormal, cryptids and the unknown? And how did you decide to dive into podcasting about these topics?
[00:55:31] Speaker D: I have a lot of paranormal experiences throughout my life, so that's basically where it starts. One of my earliest memories is of shadow figures. And so I've seen a lot of shadow people, and I see shadow people in the house that I'm in right now.
I haven't seen them in a couple of weeks now, but I'm sure one of them will pop its head in at some point. I heard a knock on my door, my studio door, the other day, and nobody was here. It was only me and my dog in the house. So it was kind of weird, but that's what sparked my interest. And then movies and stuff, like, I'm a huge horror fan, right? I love all of it. It's slasher. It could be cheesy and corny or realistic.
I like the ghost stuff, especially at night, too. Especially when I was like a teenager, I would watch a ghost movie and scare myself, and then I would test myself in the Darkness. Although if anything, after a ghostly movie at night and there was a noise, I'd run at any time, I probably still would know.
My sister says out of everybody that she knows, that out of everybody she knows, were to. If anyone were to survive a horror movie, it would be me, because I don't ask questions or anything. I just run based off of it.
[00:57:12] Speaker A: Did you grow up in a haunted house then?
[00:57:15] Speaker D: Well, I don't know if it was haunted, but there was definitely weird stuff happening because we moved around a lot. So all my experiences, a lot of them are other places. So pretty much there's at least one experience in almost everywhere that I've lived. But my grandparents house is where I saw most of it. That's where the property next to them, that's where in the woods. That's where the mushroom people were, the shadow people in their basement. I saw apparition out on their swing set in their backyard.
[00:57:52] Speaker B: Was that the spaghetti guy?
[00:57:54] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:57:57] Speaker B: You got to tell that story.
[00:57:59] Speaker D: I was nine years old.
I had tried to take my own life with a blade and obviously didn't succeed, because if I did, I wouldn't be talking to you guys right now.
[00:58:14] Speaker B: We're glad of that.
[00:58:17] Speaker D: So I was out on the swing two weeks after this happened, and I just see something out of the corner of my eye by myself. And I'm like, there's nobody on the swing. And I turn my head, and it's this old guy sitting on the swing next to me. Can see completely right through him. And it's a lot like. Kind of what? A lot of movies depict a ghost where it's just, like, wispy, wavy white, and you can see through it. And his face was distorted. I couldn't see any kind of facial features or anything, but for some reason, I knew he was old.
And he had something in his lap, like, in his hands.
And I know it's stringy, but what I can only describe it as was he was either knitting, like, a bunch of yarn in his hands or a bowl of noodles.
I have no idea or no recollection of what it actually was, but I just know that it was stringy.
[00:59:30] Speaker A: How he became spaghetti man.
[00:59:32] Speaker B: I call him Spaghetti man.
[00:59:36] Speaker D: He became Spaghetti man.
And he goes, hey, be patient. I was like, about what? He's like, man. You'll know. I was like, oh, all right. And then it was like sleep paralysis. But obviously I'm not sleeping. I'm out on the fucking swing set, and I'm just staring at the ground. And I want to run so bad, but I couldn't move, and it felt like forever. It was probably only two minutes, and I finally turned my head and he wasn't there.
[01:00:11] Speaker A: Crazy.
[01:00:12] Speaker B: Well, I think he was giving you a premonition of your future with your podcast. Because with your podcast, you open a platform for so many people to be able to listen and talk about things that other people may look down their nose or may look at differently. You open the whole platform for mental health, so you make it a safe place for people. And you're helping people through the airwaves because they know that it's okay to think the way they think. They know it's okay that these things are happening that they can't understand. And so I think that was a premonition to you being able to create this wonderful thing for people to feel like they have a safe space.
[01:01:05] Speaker D: Yeah, thank you for that.
I think he was definitely alluding to now with everything that has gone on.
I attempted twice and thought about it a third time when I was 30. And I don't know, just the things my kids and I have the opportunities to experience now and all the people that I'm meeting through doing this podcast and the traveling that I'm doing for the podcast just to network and stuff like that has been really rewarding for my own spiritual growth. I don't even care about growing the podcast. I just want to talk to people.
[01:01:49] Speaker B: Right. And I think that's the true organic thing about your podcast, is that you are truly there to listen and to talk and to share. And that is something that a lot of podcasts don't have. You have a really great platform, and the way that you go about everything is phenomenal. That's why I found it so easy to binge. I couldn't wait to hear the next story. I couldn't wait to hear the next guest and the things that happen, like the crazy things with that one.
The guy that I can't remember his name now, where you actually had voices coming through during the podcast and how some of these people have been able to be joined together.
You've helped other people with other things, and some guests have been helping other guests, and it's just an incredible community. And the way that you do it is phenomenal. So you definitely need to give yourself a big pat on the back.
[01:02:56] Speaker D: You're making me cry, Tracy, I'm not.
[01:03:00] Speaker B: Trying to make you just. I'm speaking the truth. I mean, you do. You have a phenomenal platform. And very, very blessed that I found this group of people and was able to hear all these different stories, like Farah and her blog that she has now. I mean, she's going totally. Farah was the conversation cabin. Now she's sinister studio, and she has created a blog that she goes raw. She talks about all of her life events, and that's a lot of stuff that people try to hide, and they want to just get out here and they want to try to just make it big. But that's not what it's about. It's about sharing your story, sharing your experiences, sharing stories of others.
And that, I think, is what is really important. And I think that's where our small indie pods are going to make a difference someday.
[01:03:59] Speaker D: I 100% agree.
Just the love from everybody and stuff has been the best part of this entire thing.
[01:04:12] Speaker B: Oh, definitely.
[01:04:13] Speaker D: It's helped a lot from a lot of.
I talk about it a lot on the show, too. I used to be really introverted. It was hard to get myself to talk to anybody about anything.
But yes, even to go back to the question, what got me into the podcast?
Honestly, I thought podcasts were kind of stupid for the longest time. And I was like, who the hell wants to listen to other people talk about just talk, right?
And I started with Joe Rogan, and then I got into a conspiracy podcast, and that one was crazy, and I'm anti vax. So a lot of things that the conspiracy guys were getting into, I was just like, yeah, not that I have a problem with anybody who gets vaccinated at all by anything or any of them or anything like that. It's just not for me.
The Conspiracy podcast had a paranormal podcast guy on, and his story was freaking crazy. And I was like, oh, my God, this is so good. So I started listening to his podcast, and then a friend of mine also had his own podcast. He doesn't do it anymore, but I was a guest on his show, and we just talked about random stuff, kind of Joe Rogan style. And I was listening to this paranormal podcast, and I was like, I want to talk to people about ghosts and shit. I want to hear people.
[01:05:57] Speaker B: That's where I kind of got into it, too. I started listening to. With our jobs, we have so much time that we're not communicating with people. We basically own our own cleaning companies.
We do residential and commercial cleaning. So you're in houses all by yourself. And I got so tired of listening to music, listening to the same thing over and over and over again. So then I found podcasts, and then I was listening to some of the bigger podcasts, and now I don't listen to any of the big ones anymore. I've gone all indie. I've gone all with our circle. I'm trying to get through everyone's and that know I'll be all caught up and then I can just each week listen to everyone's episodes and stuff.
But Jeremy is a major introvert as well.
[01:06:47] Speaker A: Yeah, you think so?
[01:06:49] Speaker B: This was really hard for him to. He supported me in wanting to do this, but it was way out of his comfort zone.
[01:06:58] Speaker A: It still is.
[01:07:01] Speaker D: Eventually it won't.
[01:07:02] Speaker A: Yeah. I don't know. I fight myself every time we record. It's like, really hard.
[01:07:09] Speaker B: Yes. You've gotten better, though. I don't have to convince you as much, especially when we do crossovers.
He likes to get in his head a little bit, but I keep telling him, just let your natural personality that I see shine through. And when we had David and Amanda on, Jeremy made the comment about being introverted, and David was like, what? No way. He goes, I would have never got that from listening to you. And he's a major introvert.
[01:07:41] Speaker D: From listening, I can tell just because I am also.
You're a little reserved, I feel like with the words you choose.
[01:07:53] Speaker A: Yes, definitely. I think about everything I say.
[01:07:56] Speaker B: Yes, so do I. I'm the exact opposite. I'm the extrovert. And I end up stumbling over my words because my brain is going so fast and I have so much that I want to say that I don't spit it out right all the time.
[01:08:13] Speaker D: I've actually, that point now is where I'm getting ahead of myself, and I'm just like. It's just like the fumbling that I just did over the word peculiar.
[01:08:24] Speaker B: Words are hard.
[01:08:26] Speaker A: That's what editing is for.
[01:08:28] Speaker B: Yeah.
[01:08:29] Speaker A: And I think that's really the only reason I'm still in this is because I like the editing part of it. I like learning, so I find that part of it fun.
[01:08:39] Speaker B: Yeah. He's a major techie because I hate editing.
[01:08:44] Speaker A: I go deep.
[01:08:46] Speaker B: He does. I'll go through and edit. At times when we're getting, like, backlogged or if we're getting to crunch time to get the episode out, I'll go in and edit. He's taught me the basics, and so I'll go in and do some stuff, and then he'll always go over my edits again.
[01:09:07] Speaker D: That's funny.
[01:09:09] Speaker A: So among paranormal phenomenon, cryptids and the unknown, do you have a favorite topic or creature that you find particularly fascinating or mysterious?
[01:09:21] Speaker D: I feel like dog man out of the cryptids would be extremely mysterious and interesting just because of werewolf or whatever that it could be.
Some people think it's a government experiment. Some people think that they work for the government. Some people think that they are soldiers turned into dogs and stuff. And whenever somebody has a sighting, there's this metal sound, like a portal door, or maybe even like an underground based door opening up. And then this creature is out there, and it's probably one of the scarier of the cryptids.
Out of all the cryptids that I know of, I feel like this one's going to take my life if I ever.
[01:10:31] Speaker B: Yes.
[01:10:32] Speaker A: Yeah. Anytime I hear about dog man, there's similarities to Bigfoot.
I don't know. Some of the stories are really alike in that aspect.
[01:10:49] Speaker B: And with dog. Oh, go ahead. Sorry.
[01:10:51] Speaker D: A lot of them are. Dog man and Bigfoot are seen together in the same experience. Not essentially. They're actually together at the same time.
[01:11:04] Speaker A: Okay.
[01:11:04] Speaker D: But within the same night.
[01:11:06] Speaker B: Like the beast of Briar Road in Wisconsin.
It sounds like very similar to a dog man.
[01:11:16] Speaker D: Yeah. And then you got the beast or the werewolf of the LBL or whatever. The wolf of the LBl or beast of the LBl. Martin groves has a wild experience out there with his hunting buddy, where he literally saw a dog man being held back by a collar and a leash that were made of chains by Bigfoot. And he wrote two books on that.
[01:11:47] Speaker B: Wow.
[01:11:47] Speaker D: I really want to talk to him.
[01:11:49] Speaker B: That is very cool. Yeah. The guy that you interviewed, the tomato Fields book, I actually reached out to him.
I think we followed each other on Instagram, and then he thanked me for the follow and sent me the link to his book. And then I asked him if he had ever been on a podcast for an interview. And it was funny because, like, two weeks later, I was listening to your podcast, and you had him on there. I'm like, yay, somebody's interviewing him.
Very cool story there, too.
[01:12:22] Speaker D: Yeah, he's a wicked nice guy, too. He's a lot of fun to talk to.
[01:12:28] Speaker B: Definitely. Well, I think we'll have one final question, and this one is, have you ever visited a location known for paranormal activity or cryptid sightings? And if so, did you experience anything out of the ordinary?
[01:12:47] Speaker D: Absolutely. So I recently went to the huckamuck swamp inside the Bridgewater triangle in Massachusetts.
I went with exploring with Phil on YouTube. So there's a whole video on it.
We think we heard the portal door open for, like, a dog man. We heard a metal door and his word bank.
The spirits or entities that can speak to will put submit words into. We heard that metal sound, and then the word bank says door.
[01:13:29] Speaker B: Wow.
[01:13:30] Speaker D: And he heard what sounded like a dog was behind him.
It sounded like somebody was walking their dog up behind him, and it freaked him out. And I heard it, too, but it sounded more like just like somebody shuffling. Like, I thought he was just like. Because I think I had my back to him at the time. And I just heard a shuffling sound, and I thought it was him.
And then the spirit box, we got a lot of wicked cool replies. So I'm panopscot indian here. It's a tribe here in Maine.
And so the huckamuck swamp was land for the Wapanag people. And to hear the spirit box say Panob Scott, say my name and say podcast in such a short amount of time was, that's crazy. It gave me goosebumps.
And then it told us to look out, get out of the way. And we're like, what are we in the way of? And then they said, bigfoot.
[01:14:44] Speaker B: What?
You're standing at his portal.
[01:14:54] Speaker D: I threw a rock into the woods, and Phil's like, can you throw that back at us? I was like, preferably not at my head.
[01:15:02] Speaker B: Let me be specific here. Throw it that direction.
[01:15:08] Speaker D: And then on the SLS camera, we saw a bunch of little people.
[01:15:14] Speaker B: Oh, very cool. Now, this was after you went to Florida and did the Estes session with.
Oh, I'm mind blocking their name. Now, wasn't that before this experience, too?
[01:15:29] Speaker D: Yeah, it was literally, like a week before.
[01:15:32] Speaker B: And you know what the Estes is, Jeremy?
[01:15:34] Speaker A: No.
[01:15:35] Speaker B: Where they're blindfolded, and they have the noise canceling headphones on and stuff.
[01:15:40] Speaker D: Yeah.
So it's 305 paranormal.
[01:15:44] Speaker B: Yes.
[01:15:46] Speaker D: But they're also a part of a bigger group called War Party Paranormal.
[01:15:51] Speaker B: Okay.
[01:15:53] Speaker D: But, yeah, Mondo, who goes by Mr. 305 paranormal. On Instagram, he asked spirit to touch my shoulder, and then right after that, it felt like my shoulder was being interesting.
[01:16:13] Speaker B: I listened to. You know, I listened to all of those episodes, but that one, I couldn't wait. When you guys were talking about the esta session, I kept waiting because you kept saying you were going to Florida, and I was so excited to hear because you'd never really gone on a ghost hunt, and so I was super excited. And then you were talking about this esta session that you did, and they did a great job of putting that together for you, and it was fun to listen to. It was very fun.
I think I could do what you did with just sitting in a room, but I don't think I could do what Farrah did. I don't know if you heard what she did, an estes in her cave.
[01:16:57] Speaker D: Yeah, she was just on, I think it's episode 81 right now where she talked about going into the cave and stuff.
[01:17:09] Speaker B: She's on, oh, I'm going to have to listen to that one. Oh, my gosh. When I was watching the video, the YouTube video that her and Courtney did on that, and I'm like, get her out of.
I mean, the skinwalkers are not something to mess with if they think there's skinwalkers in.
I just, I love hearing all of these stories.
And it's fun because when you get into this, like, our little group or whatever, we learn from each other and we're learning more about each other from everybody's podcasts and stuff. So that makes it fun. And with a lot of these questions, obviously, we're not doing video, but when we wrote the questions, because listening to your show, I know a lot of your stories, and every time we'd ask a question, I'd kind of nod my head. I'm like, yes, that's the story. I wanted him to tell what I had in mind.
But why don't you go ahead and give us one final reminder of where we can find you.
[01:18:29] Speaker D: All right. So it's where the weird ones are on Facebook and Instagram, the website where the weird ones are, podcast.com. You can even leave a rating and a review on the website for the show if you happen to be on for, or if you're, like, on Amazon and you're listening through that or something like that, or one of the platforms that don't allow you to do ratings and review. So the website, you can find all the stuff like the store, the merch store, and I started a blog on there, too. So TikTok is Kevin, this is. And yeah, if anybody who listens to your show, if they have a story that they're interested in telling and they want to be featured on the show, they can reach out to me at where the weird ones
[email protected]. And we can set something up.
[01:19:32] Speaker A: And I'm assuming everybody can find you guys on Apple and Spotify and all that.
[01:19:38] Speaker D: It's. So the platforms that the show's on is Amazon Music, Spotify, Apple Podcast, iHeartRadio, and then videos on Rumble and YouTube.
[01:19:50] Speaker A: Very cool.
[01:19:51] Speaker B: Awesome. Definitely check him out. He will have you wanting more with each. So it's a great show, people. Yes. And it's different content, which is not, you know, the same stories being retold by different people. It's all raw content, but. Well, thank you, Kevin, for coming on and blessing us with your presence. And again, I encourage everyone, go listen to his show.
[01:20:19] Speaker D: Thank you, guys. I appreciate you having me on and I can't wait for you guys to come on to my show.
[01:20:24] Speaker B: Yes. Next month. I'm excited.
Going to have to figure out all my ghosty stories.
All right, well, you have a great day.
[01:20:35] Speaker D: You as well. Take care.
[01:20:37] Speaker A: Catch you later, Kevin. Bye.
[01:20:39] Speaker D: Yes, sir. Bye.
[01:20:41] Speaker A: Wow, guys, what an episode. Kevin was great.
[01:20:45] Speaker B: He certainly was. What fun stories. And we got know dive into a lot of different things.
[01:20:53] Speaker A: Yeah, we went deep, people.
[01:20:55] Speaker B: Went really deep. Well, thank you, Kevin, for joining us, everybody. Please go check out his podcast. You won't be disappointed. And we've got some exciting episodes coming up in the next few weeks.
Jeremy's going to go off of this episode a little bit and dive more into the flat earth theory, and he's going to bring his own theories into it. We have the Palmer house story with special guest Jenny, where she's going to kind of tell us some of her ghost stories and about paranormal investigations.
Then we're going to go into some cursed movies, and then we're going to have Nash from chasing legends, a cryptid hunter, on the show. So I tell you, the next few weeks are going to be pretty amazing exciting.
But until then, keep on creeping on, everybody.
[01:21:52] Speaker A: Later.
[01:21:53] Speaker B: We love you.
[01:21:54] Speaker A: Smell you later.
[01:21:55] Speaker B: Bye bye.
[01:21:57] Speaker A: Love you. Thanks for hanging out with us here at Total conundrum. Please make sure to check out our website and
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[01:22:55] Speaker D: As I.
